Sources of leaks in a Traveller ..?

[adrian5750]

HI All

Been a bit wet out here in the far South-West of Ireland.
Trouble is - it's got a bit wet _inside_ 'Betty' (the 'new-to-me' '64 Moggie Traveller).

Two main places seem to be getting wet...

Directly behind the drivers' seat (quite a little puddle, just where the back legs of the seat sit) Before anybody comments - it's nothing to do with consuming too much Murphy's !

In the drivers' side glovebox

Before I rip the car apart looking for the source of this... can anybody suggest 'the usual suspects' please ??

Many thanks
Adrian

[simmitc]

Glovebox could be (a) leaking washer hose, (b) loose washer jet (perished gasket) allowing water to enter sround the jet, (c) ditto for wiper spindle, (d) windscreen rubber. Remove the glovebox then get an assistant to spray the outside of the car whilst you sit inside and watch.

Rear footwell could be: (a) Door not fitting properly against draught excluder, (b) windscreen again - it runs down the front and then moves backwards to collect at lowest point, (c) rear wheel arch - spray comes in and again runs down sills to lowest point, (d) spring hangers - if corroded the floor pan will again collect spray, (e) side panel not sealed against wooden frame, (f) windows channels overflowing - check that all drain holes are clear to the outside of the car, they come out underneath the waist rail.

These are not in order of likelyhood, just possibilities learnt from bitter (again nothing to do with beer) experience. Happy hunting.

[adrian5750]

Hi

Glovebox could be (a) leaking washer hose, (b) loose washer jet (perished gasket) allowing water to enter sround the jet, (c) ditto for wiper spindle, (d) windscreen rubber. Remove the glovebox then get an assistant to spray the outside of the car whilst you sit inside and watch.

Rear footwell could be: (a) Door not fitting properly against draught excluder, (b) windscreen again - it runs down the front and then moves backwards to collect at lowest point, (c) rear wheel arch - spray comes in and again runs down sills to lowest point, (d) spring hangers - if corroded the floor pan will again collect spray, (e) side panel not sealed against wooden frame, (f) windows channels overflowing - check that all drain holes are clear to the outside of the car, they come out underneath the waist rail.


These are not in order of likelyhood, just possibilities learnt from bitter (again nothing to do with beer) experience. Happy hunting.

Thanks for the suggestions......
I'll do some 'hunting'

Need to get that car port built fairly smartish <g> - poor little Traveller looks so sad with a tarp over her !

Thanks again
Adrian

[Kevin]

windows channels overflowing - check that all drain holes are clear to the outside of the car, they come out underneath the waist rail.

Another cause is that the inner fillet is not sealed properly with dum dum allowing the water from the rain channel to leak inside and onto the floor, have a close look around as there are often water trail stains from the leak these are often faint but can be seen.

[Stig]

Another cause is that the inner fillet is not sealed properly with dum dum allowing the water from the rain channel to leak inside and onto the floor, have a close look around as there are often water trail stains from the leak these are often faint but can be seen.

Yep, I'm pretty sure that's where the water gets into mine too. Take that piece of carpet out until you've fixed it -mine has now rotted. So, anyone got a usable set of red carpets they don't need? -he asks hopefully...

[Kevin]

Well its not too long a job to take the fillet out and redo the DumDum, but if the fillet needs cleaning up it will take a bit longerrrrr

[stevey]

what about the sealing rubber between the cab back and the rear roof section?

[8009STEVE]

what about the sealing rubber between the cab back and the rear roof section

yes. Mine leaks and I have only just fitted it.

[RogerRust]

I had a puddle behind the drivers seat the rear inner wing flange - for want of a better discription was rusted away.

This bit:



By the way we had to cut it into three bits to weld it in and join them up aferwards.

Roger

[adrian5750]

Hi Stevey

what about the sealing rubber between the cab back and the rear roof section?

Thanks for the suggestion.
Is silicon sealant a suitable substance to squeeze under leaking rubber strips - or is there something else that's preferred ?

Adrian

[adrian5750]

Hi Kevin

windows channels overflowing - check that all drain holes are clear to the outside of the car, they come out underneath the waist rail.

Another cause is that the inner fillet is not sealed properly with dum dum allowing the water from the rain channel to leak inside and onto the floor, have a close look around as there are often water trail stains from the leak these are often faint but can be seen.

Thanks for the suggestion - but I'm a bit lost....
Where is this 'inner fillet' ??

Adrian

[Kevin]

Hi Adrian
There are 2 inner fillets one above and one below the sliding glass the one that causes the problem is the lower one, its the one with the door sliding mechanism fitted to it, its correct title is the inner capping for the waist rail and its sealed in place with Dumdum and if it often causes a leak were its fitted against the B post position, if you remove the screws and wiggle it out with the metal waist rail capping you will soon see it the Dumdum is past its sell by date.
If my desription leaves something to be desired have a look at one of the on line suppliers and you should be able to see the part.
Or if you want to see mine as I have one apart at the moment send me a PM and I will take a couple of photo`s for you if you send me your email.

[Stig]

I take back what I said about the window channels, I found that the ally panel wasn't sealed properly where it fixes to the main post behind the door. The old Dumdum had dried out, cracked and fallen out, it was excellent weather yesterday for squeezing some new Dumdum into the gaps. Time will tell whether it's water-tight now or not.

[plastic_orange]

Check that the gaskets under the bonnet hinges (on scuttle) are in good order - or are even there - common source of dash board leaks.

Pete

[iandromiskin]

adrian5750,

Hi Adrian, Just curious as to where you are as I live in Dromiskin, Co. Louth. I mainly go to the shows up this end of the country. Are you a member of the IMMOC or are you heading up to Mosney next weekend ???

Ian.

[adrian5750]

HI Stig28

I take back what I said about the window channels, I found that the ally panel wasn't sealed properly where it fixes to the main post behind the door. The old Dumdum had dried out, cracked and fallen out, it was excellent weather yesterday for squeezing some new Dumdum into the gaps. Time will tell whether it's water-tight now or not.

I'm not familar with Dumdum (other than as a term of mild abuse! )

I have various sealants in the shed - including some black 'gutter sealant' and the inevitable clear silicon sealant. Would these be suitable - or is Dumdum something much better ??

Thanks
Adrian

[adrian5750]

HI Pete

Check that the gaskets under the bonnet hinges (on scuttle) are in good order - or are even there - common source of dash board leaks.

Pete

Thanks for the tip - I'll take a look

Adrian

[adrian5750]

HI Ian

adrian5750,

Hi Adrian, Just curious as to where you are as I live in Dromiskin, Co. Louth. I mainly go to the shows up this end of the country. Are you a member of the IMMOC or are you heading up to Mosney next weekend ???

Ian.

No - I'm not (yet) a member of IMMOC - worth joining, maybe ??

We're down in the far South-west - south of Bantry, North of Ballydehob - and about one and a half hours west of Cork city. Really 'out in the sticks' !

Regards
Adrian

[Stig]

I'm not familar with Dumdum (other than as a term of mild abuse! )

I have various sealants in the shed - including some black 'gutter sealant' and the inevitable clear silicon sealant. Would these be suitable - or is Dumdum something much better ??

Thanks
Adrian

Dumdum is the stuff that was used originally, I think. It's a tin of black gunge that you just press in with your finger, it then hardens/dries a bit but stays slightly flexible -well, for a few years, not 40! It needs to be warm to be workable, I guess it's a bit like putty. Clean off any excess with white spirit.
I've heard other folks saying silicone sealant does bad things to steel - probably the acetic acid in it, but maybe it's OK with ally but Dumdum's the 'proper' stuff apparently. You can buy it from the usual Minor suppliers.

[Kevin]

I'm not familar with Dumdum

This should help so you know what to look for

http://www.frost.co.uk/item_Detail.asp? ... EgodcFY4aw