Apologies if this has been discussed ..... I don't visit here very often, but this is a very important petition to register our feelings about any plans to limit or restrict the use of classic vehicles.
If they do go ahead with this then the answer is to get a Q plate. Cars are given a Q when they have no definate age, i'm sure you know about all that, so if they have no age they wont be effected.
cheers, Daniel
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The pulling power of a Turbo Diesel! The voices may not be real, but they have good ideas.
from the fbhvc web site "7 March
More success in Brussels
FBHVC Chairman Andrew Burt (who is also a director of FIVA) and Vice President Geoff Smith met Marco Gasparinetti on the Clean Air and Transport section of the European Commission's Environment Directorate towards the end of February.
They were representing both FBHVC and FIVA and had gone to discuss the findings of the research into the extent, value and character of the historic vehicle movement that had been undertaken in 2006 - the research had been triggered by a remark made by Mr Gasparientti two years previously when he had commented that the Environment Directorate could not accept FIVA's unsupported claim that historic vehicles made an insignificant contribution to pollution.
Mr Gasparinetti congratulated FIVA on the work it had undertaken, and said he was now happy to accept the findings, one of which was that historic vehicles account for less than 0.1% of total European traffic. On that basis, Mr Gasparinetti said it was unlikely that the Directorate would consider that banning historic vehicles would make any significant contribution to improving pollution levels."
shows that the EEC have considered banning historic vehicles and that the EEC is the enemy of the historic vehicle movement.
Signed it but I know it'll never happen. Just another 'petition' scare story. Who cares about pre 73 cars? As shown above, there's not enough of em left to justify the sheer beurocratic cost of implementing a ban.
I think it just shows that all politicians - wherever they are consider the car as an easy target for emmisions legislation.
This still doesn't tackle the real issue of sustainable energy - which has no easy fixes.
Houses pollute more than cars - maybe we should start to legislate against big / old houses ;-)
Ray. MMOC#47368. Forum moderator.
Jan 06: The Minor SII Africa adventure: http://www.minor-detour.com
Oct 06: back from Dresden with my Trabant 601 Kombi
Jan 07: back from a month thru North Africa (via Timbuktu) in a S3 Landy
June 07 - back from Zwickau Trabi Treffen
Aug 07 & Aug 08 - back from the Lands End to Orkney in 71 pickup
Sept 2010 - finally gave up breaking down in a SII Landy...
where to break down next?
2013... managed to seize my 1275 just by driving it round the block
Signed both - besides, the environmental impact of keeping and running an older car, especially one as old as even the youngest Minor, is far, far less than the environmental impact of making all these ugly new cars, which the general populace is expected to replace every five or so years (due to fashion/advertising/devaluation).
I've signed it too, but agree its unlikely to happen as there is no money in it for the Government. Anyway, I think my 1098 is less polluting than a 4x4; get rid of them first! (except in country areas)
Steve & William
If you are good with a hammer, you think everything is a nail.
Funny how everyone's against 4x4's, as I was told by a friend this story; he had worked hard all his life, came from a bad area, no money, family in strife, etc. He built up his own business from scratch, and for years barely managed to scrape togetehr enough money, after ploughing everything back into the business to stop it failing and keep it going, to feed his family. Now that he's in a relatively comfortable position, and making a bit of money after years of hard graft, why shouldn't he invest that in a car that he really likes? For him, this means a whopping great off-roader (which doesn't actually get driven off road, but does get driven, if you catch my drift).
Begs the qusetion - who are we to tell others what they can and can't drive? Yes, I think "t****r" when I see a really flash car, or some pimped-up Range Rover that's never seen a spot of mud, but then I think again - what if that person worked incredibly hard to afford that car? Good for them, to be able to buy the one thing they really want.
It's dangerous territory, censoring what can and can't buy, especially when it comes to cars. After all, once they've banned the 4x4s, then it'll be the sports cars, then the bangers over fifteen years old, then the classics will be either banned or heavily restricted from daily use . . . .
If I had the money to spare I'd buy a Series II Landy in military spec, an old black cab, and a Toyota Hilux - doesn't make me any better or worse than the rich person who's got a Lambo, a Caterham and a few Porsches in his garage, now, does it?:)
Anyway, petitions duly signed - oh, and I've also been bugging my local MP about what exemptions (if any) classic cars will get under the proposed road pricing legislation (as well as giving him all the reasons why it wouldn't work with a Moggy - where would you fit that power-draining black box, eh?)!
