waxoyl spray gun

Post by **Pascal** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:24 am

I've looked at waxoyl cans and spray guns today and saw two models:
- the "jumbo" squeeze gun
- the "high pressure" gun that is operated by pumping air into the can

Has anybody tried them? Which one works best?

Post by **chickenjohn** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 7:28 am

I didn;t get on very well with either- both hard to use. The best thing you can do is buy/borrow a small compressor and use a schultz gun with the nozzle and also the long entenstion probe for the cavities. Makes waxoyling SO much easier and quicker.

Post by **Peetee** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 8:34 am

I've tried the pressure one with reasonably good results. However, you MUST keep the container and supply tube warm to stop the wax from solidifying before it gets to the nozzle. It's best to keep the container in a bucket of hot water, but unless the weather is really warm you will still have problems with it thickening in the pipe.
Also the last 30cm or so of the nozzle end is not flexible so getting inside door panels and chassis legs etc is a bit difficult.

Post by **millerman** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:30 am

C'john
Agree with the use of Schultz gun, did you make up the extension or buy one?
Cheers

Post by **Pascal** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:42 am

Does the Schultz gun come with its own can? Can you attach it to the Wawoyl can?

Post by **chickenjohn** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:37 am

I got a can of the thinner Dinitrol cavity wax that the shultz gun screws into. When all cavities were done and container empty-Then warmed the waxoyl and poured it into the empty container, screwed back into the gun and did the underside with that.

Post by **jonathon** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:50 am

If the wax is too thick yo go through the gun/flexi, just dilute with white spirit,this will evaporate leaving a coat of wax in places thicker wax will not reach.Better still warm wax 10% white spirit, works just great!
I'd go with Chickenjohn's method, just making sure that the nozzle at the end of the flexi tube is alteast a 3-5 way sprayer.

Post by **DavidCragie** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:43 pm

Dont' buy a jumbo squeeze gun! They are worse than useless and you get covered in waxoyl and extremely bad tempered. Within 15 minutes mine got thrown in the bin. Compressor and spray gun definately the way to go.
Dave

Post by **Willie** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:02 pm

AGREED, used both types of Waxoyl guns and they are pretty useless,
you might get away with the first use but from there on they spell trouble. The round can type persists in blowing pressure through the screw thread in the tin for me and the shultz gun is the way to go. Warm the Waxoyl as described and preferably stand the car in the blazing sun for hours before you apply it.

Post by **wibble_puppy** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:57 pm

i thought the gun thingys were called "schutz" guns not "schultz" guns?

Post by **bigginger** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 7:06 pm

So did they

http://secure.thorite.co.uk/product.asp ... P_ID=43586

Post by **wibble_puppy** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 7:14 pm

thanks Big Man!

thought my brain had let go of yet another fact

Post by **Pascal** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 7:42 pm

So you need a compressor to use this gun? Would this do the job?

http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/produ ... compressor

Post by **chickenjohn** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:17 pm

I've seen it also spelt with an l or without.

http://www.justoffbase.co.uk/Underbody- ... tegory=217

Post by **bigginger** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:27 pm

Odd. I wonder it 'Schu(l)tz is the type, rather than the make of the tool?

Post by **Pascal** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:03 pm

Now that's we've sorted the spelling what about the compressor ?

http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/produ ... compressor

Post by **bigginger** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:22 pm

OK - i'd say that it pushes WAY to little air to be much use, sorry

Post by **Pascal** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 12:15 am

How much air displacement would be needed?

Post by **Welung666** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:27 am

Get to Aldi's and pick up one of their £60 compressors, I did and it'll push my schultz gun nicely.

Post by **chickenjohn** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 10:44 am

You don;t need a big compressor for this job as the S"£$%tz (whatever spelling you prefer) gun has quite a big nozzle.

But just try using the hand pump and then the compressor and gun and see how much easier it is. Took me 2 hours with the proper kit versus a whole weekend struggling with the hand pumped thing.