Seatbelts

Post by **paulhumphries** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 10:44 am

Sorry, I know they are "period" items, but I cann't cope with the original Kangol magnetic seat belts in my 2 door and need inertia type.
I know all the dealers have ones suitable in stock but can anyone tell me (maybe from an old application guide ?) what other cars have the same seatbelts as a 2 door Minor ?
I'm not after secondhand but rather want to be able to buy a "bargain" if I see then at autojumble, eBay etc.
I suspect, due to fitment in Minor, that something like a sports car (MGB, Midget, Spitfire ?) might be applicable.

Paul Humphries.

Post by **Kevin** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 2:23 pm

Hi Paul Securon are the most commonly current fitted ones.
If you use their website you will find that it lists 500/45 as the right model number but you will find this is really for the 4 door and Traveller models and makes it a bit short for the 2 door cars & convertibles, if you contact one of the specialists I believe the correct model is 514/30.
So to assist your search
500/45 includes
Morris Oxford 59 - 71, Morris 1800 66 - 75, 1100 - 1300 all years, Maxi 69 - 81.
514/30 includes
TR 4,5,6,7, MG Midget 64 - 81, MGA 57 - 62, MGB 62 -81.
This should keep you busy for a while.

Post by **paulhumphries** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 12:16 pm

Kevin wrote:Hi Paul Securon are the most commonly current fitted ones.
If you use their website you will find that it lists 500/45 as the right model number but you will find this is really for the 4 door and Traveller models and makes it a bit short for the 2 door cars & convertibles, if you contact one of the specialists I believe the correct model is 514/30.
So to assist your search
500/45 includes
Morris Oxford 59 - 71, Morris 1800 66 - 75, 1100 - 1300 all years, Maxi 69 - 81.
514/30 includes
TR 4,5,6,7, MG Midget 64 - 81, MGA 57 - 62, MGB 62 -81.
This should keep you busy for a while.

Old man s*d intervenes again.

I bought some, new, seatbelts off eBay - and they are too short.

I've unwound them today and measured the length of the strap - 280mm.

Looking on the Securon web site the recommened seat belts 500/45 have stalks 45mm and strap 314m long.
I reckon these would fit.
The alternative that Kevin suggests are 514/30 with stalk 30mm and strap 270mm long.
The Metro ones people say fit are 500/30 - stalk 30mm and strap 314mm long.

I'm now confused.

What have other peole, fitted to a 2 door and find they are long enough ?

Paul Humphries.

BTW (i) the ones I've already bought aren't going to be wasted as they are perfect for fitment to the rear.

BTW (ii) I can get 500/30 (30mm stalk and 314 strap) for £27.19 each including VAT from so will probably use these idc. They are same as Metro but from Land Rover dealer -
http://www.paddockspares.com/pp/SERIES/ ... cles..html
Stalk is a little short but I'd already made some adapter bracket for the short stalks with the ones I'd bought.

Post by **Kevin** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:00 pm

Paul the inertia belts are only £24:50 for the 4 Door version and I think the 2 Door version is only a £5 more if I remember from the Minor specialists, rather that but the Metro ones buy the correct ones.

Post by **paulhumphries** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:48 pm

Kevin wrote:Paul the inertia belts are only £24:50 for the 4 Door version and I think the 2 Door version is only a £5 more if I remember from the Minor specialists, rather that but the Metro ones buy the correct ones.

Fair comments but which are CORRECT version for 2 door ?
The ones shown on Securon web site - 500/45 ie 45mm stalk and 314mm strap or what you suggested originally 514/30 which are acutally shorter at 30mm stalk and 270mm strap.
My opinion is the 514/30 are for the 4 door and 500/45 for two door but I'd like feedback for someone who says they have bought version "*" and it fits.
Also why different length stalks for 2 & 4 door ?

Paul Humphries.

Post by **RogerRust** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 5:22 pm

My four door has trafficators so the top seat belt anchor. Can either be too high so that it rubs the neck or too low so that it falls off.

What I am wondering is if it posible to make a drop bracket with a hole at the top and a captive bolt at the bottom so that the belt mounts about half way down the top half of the pillar (if that makes sense).

Any ideas??

Post by **moggyminor16** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 6:30 pm

i thave put landrover defender bets in my traveller and there very long

Post by **chrisd87** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 6:47 pm

Roger,

My 4-dr also has trafficators and seems to have the sort of bracket which you describe. It bolts in above and below the trafficators and has a stud sticking out about half-way up that the belt bolts to. I don't know who made/makes them though.

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Post by **RogerRust** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:31 pm

Thats what I had in mind. I have some vinyl to match the seats so I plan to cover them so it looks original. Any one going to offer to make me a pair? Actually I think I might do it myself. Or do you think stainless steel would look nice?

Post by **BigMark** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:35 pm

Stainless would get my vote, very nice

Post by **Kevin** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:55 pm

Hi Paul the best thing is to speak to one of the specialists and they will explain why there are 2 different ones and exactly which kit is correct for your car.