Help me, I'm melting!!!
Forum rules
By using this site, you agree to our rules. Please see: Terms of Use
By using this site, you agree to our rules. Please see: Terms of Use
- princessk
- Minor Friendly
- Posts: 15
- Joined: Fri Jun 11, 2004 6:31 am
- Location: south east cornwall
- MMOC Member: No
Help me, I'm melting!!!
Hello all,
My 61 traveller heater is threatening to leave me as just a puddle of water with only my tiara to show I was ever alive! I read somewhere ?MM mag, that you can disconnect it under the bonnet for the summer. Is this right and if so how do you do it??
Whilst all advice is gratefully received, all this getting under the bonnet is very very new to me...so keep it simple please much talk of thingys is about my level.(but I am hoping to improve! )
Look forward to hearing your replies
My 61 traveller heater is threatening to leave me as just a puddle of water with only my tiara to show I was ever alive! I read somewhere ?MM mag, that you can disconnect it under the bonnet for the summer. Is this right and if so how do you do it??
Whilst all advice is gratefully received, all this getting under the bonnet is very very new to me...so keep it simple please much talk of thingys is about my level.(but I am hoping to improve! )
Look forward to hearing your replies
dont the early ones have a push in thing on the dashboard then ? ....
id been melting in the last heat wave because i was leaving my heater on thinking it migh help keep it cool, but it just seemed to upset the running - ive switched it off and it doesnt seem to have made a difference to the engine temperature, so i sweated for nothing !!!
cheers
grainger
id been melting in the last heat wave because i was leaving my heater on thinking it migh help keep it cool, but it just seemed to upset the running - ive switched it off and it doesnt seem to have made a difference to the engine temperature, so i sweated for nothing !!!
cheers
grainger
-
- Moderator
- Posts: 898
- Joined: Mon Feb 11, 2002 12:00 am
- Location: Berkshire
- MMOC Member: No
Karen,
You shouldn't have both, and a 1961 traveller should have the heater valve wheel (it has a copper/brass look when new). Open the bonnet and you should find it within seconds.
Later cars have a black knob just below and to the left of the steering wheel (not attached to the dashboard but underneath it). By pushing the knob hard it will go back almost an inch, closing down the flow of hot water.
You shouldn't have both, and a 1961 traveller should have the heater valve wheel (it has a copper/brass look when new). Open the bonnet and you should find it within seconds.
Later cars have a black knob just below and to the left of the steering wheel (not attached to the dashboard but underneath it). By pushing the knob hard it will go back almost an inch, closing down the flow of hot water.
not your choke then is it ?
how much do you not know ? your engine is probably newer than the car ... if you lift your bonnet and look at the back end of the engine - under the battery shelf - thats where your heater valve will be on top, you will see the rubber pipes taking the hot water into the car , see if its got a round tap like cam says - if not it might have a cable connected to the top of an arm thing that should move left and right - it might just be stuck, pull it to the right as you look at it .... then put some oil or grease on it and pull it back and forward a few times - mine always sticks.
hope you get it sorted - this weeks supposed to be a scorcher
cheers
grainger
how much do you not know ? your engine is probably newer than the car ... if you lift your bonnet and look at the back end of the engine - under the battery shelf - thats where your heater valve will be on top, you will see the rubber pipes taking the hot water into the car , see if its got a round tap like cam says - if not it might have a cable connected to the top of an arm thing that should move left and right - it might just be stuck, pull it to the right as you look at it .... then put some oil or grease on it and pull it back and forward a few times - mine always sticks.
hope you get it sorted - this weeks supposed to be a scorcher
cheers
grainger
-
- Minor Friendly
- Posts: 47
- Joined: Mon Feb 17, 2003 12:46 pm
- Location: Hampshire
- MMOC Member: No
On my 64 the heater valve is the brass one. I had to refit the round handle after clumsily shearing the top off! Didn't seem to be that hard a turn at the time! Anyway to avoid a bit of filing and drilling, if it is a little stiff, slacken off the gland nut and then retighten after closing/opening the valve. Sorry if this seems like a "sucking eggs" comment, but I have been playing with vehicles since Villiers engines were common and I did it!
-
- Minor Addict
- Posts: 804
- Joined: Fri Apr 16, 2004 8:58 am
- MMOC Member: No
Knob
Karen, the mystery knob, if it's towards the centre and under the parcel shelf, is probably a fresh air control. It's probably seized up through lack of use. I'll post a picture which will hopefully identify it.
-
- Minor Addict
- Posts: 804
- Joined: Fri Apr 16, 2004 8:58 am
- MMOC Member: No
Knob
Hello Karen - is it the knob circled in red? If so, it controls the air to the heater. Pulled out for fresh air, push in to recirculate - no air from outside.
- princessk
- Minor Friendly
- Posts: 15
- Joined: Fri Jun 11, 2004 6:31 am
- Location: south east cornwall
- MMOC Member: No
The mystery of the knob is solved! I thought is was something to do with air but as it has never worked and unlike everything else didn't seem to be making Maurice poorly i ignored it!...Yes yes I know the name is unoriginal but he came with it
It seems to be bending under the dashboard, is it a fairly straight forward thing to replace? Could a willing novice do it?
many thanks
karen
It seems to be bending under the dashboard, is it a fairly straight forward thing to replace? Could a willing novice do it?
many thanks
karen
-
- Minor Legend
- Posts: 1033
- Joined: Tue Feb 12, 2002 12:00 am
- Location: Hallow, Worcestershire
- MMOC Member: Yes
It's a bit fiddly, but if you've small hands and slender fingers it's not too much of a problem. Only think is, that to fit a new one, you'll have to shorten the later-type of heater control cable. The early air-flow ones are not available. You might find that it is possible to remove your calbe, and oil it a little. Lots of WD40 should sort the hinge / flap assembly under the parcel shelf, too.
Good luck!
Good luck!
Happy Minoring!
Phyllis ~ 1962 Morris Minor 4 Door Deluxe
Black coachwork with Red Duo-Tone Upholstery
Phyllis ~ 1962 Morris Minor 4 Door Deluxe
Black coachwork with Red Duo-Tone Upholstery
-
- Minor Legend
- Posts: 1033
- Joined: Tue Feb 12, 2002 12:00 am
- Location: Hallow, Worcestershire
- MMOC Member: Yes
I think you turn it clockwise to close... but I'm not sure.
Watch the spindle when you're turning. If the knob seems to be screwing down, then you're cutting off the water to the heater, so it won't get hot.
If you're screwing up, then you're opening the valve.
It may take a few turns - it's a lot like turning a tap on, but you have to get it on full...
Watch the spindle when you're turning. If the knob seems to be screwing down, then you're cutting off the water to the heater, so it won't get hot.
If you're screwing up, then you're opening the valve.
It may take a few turns - it's a lot like turning a tap on, but you have to get it on full...
Happy Minoring!
Phyllis ~ 1962 Morris Minor 4 Door Deluxe
Black coachwork with Red Duo-Tone Upholstery
Phyllis ~ 1962 Morris Minor 4 Door Deluxe
Black coachwork with Red Duo-Tone Upholstery
-
- Moderator
- Posts: 7679
- Joined: Fri Nov 01, 2002 2:55 pm
- Location: LEAMINGTON SPA
- MMOC Member: No
Crikey - my view of teachers has improved with that comment (only kidding). Yes, almost every time it is clockwise to close.I think you turn it clockwise to close...
['Clockwise to close' was an industry standard for valves from way back in the good old days when engineers had pencils and slide rules and commonly knew what they were doing.]
This works on houshold stuff like radiators, stop cocks, your gas main.. but also on the emergency shut off valves at chemical plants.. The idea to make them all the same was for safety as you don't want to guess which way to turn every valve as sometimes there are peoples lives at stake.
(anyone would think I used to work at a valve and actuator company)
Getting back to the point, it should be clockwise to close the heater valve. [I will of course eat humble pie if that is wrong, and forever think less of those 1950's engineers.]
If it keeps turning and turning, it sounds broken!
Ray. MMOC#47368. Forum moderator.
Jan 06: The Minor SII Africa adventure: http://www.minor-detour.com
Oct 06: back from Dresden with my Trabant 601 Kombi
Jan 07: back from a month thru North Africa (via Timbuktu) in a S3 Landy
June 07 - back from Zwickau Trabi Treffen
Aug 07 & Aug 08 - back from the Lands End to Orkney in 71 pickup
Sept 2010 - finally gave up breaking down in a SII Landy...
where to break down next?
2013... managed to seize my 1275 just by driving it round the block
Jan 06: The Minor SII Africa adventure: http://www.minor-detour.com
Oct 06: back from Dresden with my Trabant 601 Kombi
Jan 07: back from a month thru North Africa (via Timbuktu) in a S3 Landy
June 07 - back from Zwickau Trabi Treffen
Aug 07 & Aug 08 - back from the Lands End to Orkney in 71 pickup
Sept 2010 - finally gave up breaking down in a SII Landy...
where to break down next?
2013... managed to seize my 1275 just by driving it round the block
- princessk
- Minor Friendly
- Posts: 15
- Joined: Fri Jun 11, 2004 6:31 am
- Location: south east cornwall
- MMOC Member: No
My teacher taught me "righty tighty and lefty loosey" and that holds fast for Maurices' valve too. However as he has required an extended trip to the health farm to sort out his inner tranquility and previous cowboy work I can't guarantee this will be the same for yours.
My father would be so pleased to see that I did learn something useful at school!
My father would be so pleased to see that I did learn something useful at school!