Redoing coachline.

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Redoing coachline.

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A SADMOG pointed out that since the respray I'm missing a coachline, so I thought I'd try and redo it. I don't have a rock-steady hand so I wondered if there's any cheats or tips around or if it's just a case of getting out the paintbrush.

Another thing: the car is almond green, so what colour should the coachline be?

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Post by Kevin »

There are kits you can buy to do coach lines with that you place on the car and then remove the centre strip and paint between, also i think your one should be white.
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Post by JimK »

Cam's identification page says it should be "porcelain green" for a '68 car. (Also says my wheels should be dark silver but they're creamy white.)

Any idea of stockists for the kit? I've looked at the sites I know about but drawn a blank. Also drawn a blank on porcelain green paint, but I can get some that matches.
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Post by Welung666 »

Correct Kevin, Old English White on the Almond Green.
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According to Cam's page, Old English White wasn't used after around October '67, so wouldn't have been on my Decemeber '68 car.

His information is:
Trim: porcelain green
Carpet: green
Grill: snowberry white
Coachline: porcelain green
Wheels: dark silver.

Any other source I can cross-reference against? If it's wrong, can you give me a correct source? It's the only one I have so far.
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Post by Welung666 »

Your probably right then Jim, Phoebe is a 63 so it would explain why mine is white then.
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Post by HarryMango »

According to the bible by our esteemed Club Secretary - all Almond Green Cars originally had Porceline Green Coach lines.

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Post by cliff »

i once used a small device that held a thimble-full of paint and had a small serated wheel to dispense the paint onto the car.

you didn't need a steady hand as you ran it along the raised body line after setting up some sort of guide, i can't quite remember it was a long time ago but the results were quite acceptable.

the best part was if it didn't go on quite right then you just wiped it off with thinners and tried again.

alternatively just get some ordinary masking tape and place it carefully leaving a suitable width gap and brush paint in your colour.
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Post by rayofleamington »

alternatively just get some ordinary masking tape and place it carefully leaving a suitable width gap and brush paint in your colour.
with ordinary masking tape it will require painful precision to get the gap looking correct. There is masking tape with a pre-cut gap that avoids this problem.

Sign writers would do it similar to the description above - use a straight edge as a guide and do it by hand with a paint wheel or thin brush (the really good ones can do it freehand!!!).
The problem with trying to do that along the Minor coachline is that the surface is so curved - especially the bonnet.
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Post by cliff »

with ordinary masking tape it will require painful precision to get the gap looking correct.
actually not as difficult as your would imagine, try it first then decide, don't forget you can always remove it and reapply it if your not happy, the eye is a wonderful device.
The problem with trying to do that along the Minor coachline is that the surface is so curved - especially the bonnet.
not really a consideration, the wheel simply follows the curvature of the body, it's so small and the body is so big!.

i borrowed the one i used so it didn't actually cost me anything to try but if i was going to do it again then i would certainly buy one.
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Post by Kevin »

These are the type of thing to look out for.

http://www.frost.co.uk/result_search.asp
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Post by JimK »

Kevin wrote:These are the type of thing to look out for.

http://www.frost.co.uk/result_search.asp
I don't think you can post search results like that - I just get a list of all their products.

Is this what you were showing me?
http://www.frost.co.uk/item_Detail.asp? ... pe%20(14m)
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Sorry about that, yes thats one of the items the other is

http://www.frost.co.uk/item_Detail.asp? ... ster%20Kit
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I like the pinstriping dohicky.But fear I would end up pinstriping everything within 20 miles to try and make the £46 seem worthwhile.

Hmm how about a pinstriped computer monitor :D
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Post by cliff »

i see one of the possible uses is to 'Personalise your helmet' :o
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cliff wrote:i see one of the possible uses is to 'Personalise your helmet' :o
You're not usually allowed to paint them. Either kind... :-)
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Post by chickenjohn »

One of our East kent members saloon has a lovely hand painted coach line, it was done when the car was re-sprayed at ESM. Looks so much nicer than the stick on tape.
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Post by ColinP »

If I remember right, a coachline brush has bristles about 30-40 mm long so that as you drag it along the panel the bristles prevent sudden "twitches".

The other tip is to do what I was taught in carpentry - hold the brush (actually pencil) firmly, and move one of your knuckles to give the guide distance from an edge. Then keeping your knuckles ridig, move along the workpiece, you'll have a line at an equal distance from the edge....

(bit like using a mortice gauge - using your hand)

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ColinP wrote:The other tip is to do what I was taught in carpentry - hold the brush (actually pencil) firmly, and move one of your knuckles to give the guide distance from an edge. Then keeping your knuckles ridig, move along the workpiece, you'll have a line at an equal distance from the edge....
Now that's cunning. I might have to give that a try, assuming I can find some porcelain green paint....
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Post by Kevin »

assuming I can find some porcelain green paint....
Hi Jim do you mean this stuff
http://morrisminorspares.co.uk/shop/adv ... bed87fdc2a
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