back seat fastener

Post by **markattard** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 7:02 pm

Does anyone knows what type of fastener was used to keep the back seat (in a 2 door) in position?

I mean the locking mechanism that could be accessed through the trunk door when needed to lower the seat and have an extended lugage space.

tanx

Post by **ColinP** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 8:21 pm

Yup!

It's a pair of butterfly wing bolts - goodness knows the size - and I guess a few of the regulars do too...

Colin

Post by **Willie** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 10:02 pm

It depends on the year of the car as the earlier type had a single leather
strap in the middle with a 'lift a dot fastener'. My 1957 has this leather strap.
The later cars had a wing bolt at each side, just look for the holes in the
upright boot wall.

Post by **Gareth** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 8:45 am

How do you know if the captive fittings are in place in the rear seat? I ask because I still haven't got round to fitting the leatherette strap I made a while ago (and indeed may have misplaced it) but the holes are there in the rear bulkhead... Don't want to go puncturing the rear seat needlessly.

My back seat is held with a self-tapper at the mo...

Post by **RogerRust** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 9:23 am

This might sound silly, but here goes! I located a fitting under the vinyl using a compass (magnetic type - not for drawing circles) you can just see the needle waver as you pass the fitting.
I would suggest you do this in the privacy of your own home, and hope no one spots you doing it!

Post by **Willie** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 10:04 am

Can't help you there Gareth, I have just tried to undo one of my strap screws
to see what sort of screw it is (wood screw or B A etc) and neither of them will budge!

Post by **RogerRust** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 5:50 pm

I've just checked on Sophie.
There is a lift the dot strap.
On the centre line the screws are 6 3/8" and 7 1/2" from the top edge.
And they are 2BA by the looks of it definately not wood screws.

The seat is split and needs recovering so I'll pull it apart and look at the inside if you need me to.

Post by **Dominic** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 8:29 pm

On my 1965 4-door, I have the two wingnuts. However, the "captive" bolts in the seat back merely spin round with the butterfly nuts. Anyoe any ideas how to remedy this? (without stripping off the seat covering!) Of course, if the seat were out of the car, repairing might be easier!

Post by **Kevin** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 11:27 am

On my 1965 4-door, I have the two wingnuts. However, the "captive" bolts in the seat back merely spin round with the butterfly nuts.

Are you sure that the captive bolts are turning and nut just the wing nut part that has come adrift from the bolt.
If the whole bolt is turning try getting some plus gas in there to free things off I know its awkward to get at but its one of the theads that everybody forgets to lubricate, if you do manage to get it apart put some copper grease on the threads.

Post by **Dominic** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 6:20 pm

Hi Kevin
Yes, the whole bolt spins, sadly. Most annoying!

Post by **Willie** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:45 pm

DOMINIC....once the two wing bolts have been removed the rear seat back section just lifts upwards out of two little channels
and is then free to remove.

Post by **Dominic** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 11:06 pm

Thanks Willie

ONCE the two wing bolts have been removed........................

Post by **markattard** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:57 am

Dom, you could just cut the bolts with a grinder then remedy things while the seat is out, i think....

Post by **Dominic** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:26 pm

Sounds like the best plan Mark

Cheers

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