Working Minors

Post by **Cam** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 12:28 am

Kevin, I was at that meeting, as was Bill (Judge) and Andrew Stone, and it was agreed to remain at 5,000 miles (after much discussion). Also, there seemed to be a little confusion due to the title of the class: 'Working Minors'. Some folks thought that this was only for those Minors who 'work for a living' and are insured for business use, so I suggested changing the title (or introducing another class) to: 'Everyday Minors' or something similar to keep in with the 'spirit' of the class.

As far as I was concerned, this was then to be taken to committee for approval.

I think we need committee approval before we change anything, but I would appreciate someone letting me know when (and if) it's changed officially and then I can make any website edits accordingly.

Post by **Judge** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 9:01 am

Thank you Kevin and Cam,

Kevin wrote:They also discussed the perennial problem of former Concours entrants (and class winners) entering Condition, competing with and putting off other entrants, and suggestions centred around a separate class for previous winners. This of course requires communication between branches and monitoring of results and previous attempts have floundered due to ineffective communication, self-censoring by winners is not really realistic. If this is considered to be a significant deterrent in attracting entrants to Condition judging then a solution
could and will be devised. However, if it is not creating a problem then we should not waste time and effort in trying to right a 'phantom' wrong. We have enough intrusive and unnecessary legislation in life without bringing that principle into our hobby..

This 'perennial problem' (raised by me during the Liason Meeting) as Sandy has so eloquently put it, is indeed just that from the comments I have heard, and it is something that I have raised previously on a number of occasions. Unfortunatey it appears that the suggested solutions were never implemented and I believe that this is why complaints are still being received. The number of complaints may be small, but even if only one complaint results in the MMOC losing a member and voicing his feelings to others, then it is something that must be addressed. In fact to deal with the problem, in my opinion, is not rocket science, and could be easily accomplished.

Kevin wrote:There is a place for all types in MMOC.

I like to think so

Post by **chickenjohn** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 8:48 am

I use my Traveller as an "everyday car" which takes its turn with my other roadworthy car for driving to work duties, and other motoring etc, and the Trav never does more than 5000 miles (due to insurance limit). Its far from concourr, but would not be eligible for the "everyday car" class.

Its thins kind of thing that puts people off concours and probably why the Kent branches don;t have any concours.

Post by **Judge** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 9:32 am

chickenjohn wrote:I use my Traveller as an "everyday car" which takes its turn with my other roadworthy car for driving to work duties, and other motoring etc, and the Trav never does more than 5000 miles (due to insurance limit). Its far from concourr, but would not be eligible for the "everyday car" class.

Its thins kind of thing that puts people off concours and probably why the Kent branches don;t have any concours.

The matter of the mileage limit is something that you would need to discuss with Sandy Hamilton. However, as far a Concours is concerned, the use of your traveller as an everyday car does not exclude it. It may not achieve Masters or Grand Masters status, although two masters class cars went on MOT to France last year, but it certainly would not be the first 'everyday' car that we have had in Concours. This kind of misunderstanding is something I am striving to put an end to, and I am always happy to answer any questions that anyone may have.