Front disc conversion query

[DavidAH]

I have just bought the Marina disc conversion kit from ESM, along with the remote reservoir and the Lockheed master cylinder (as the advert for the remote reservoir said it was not compatible with original pattern master cylinder).
Is there anything else I need before starting this project?
Also, I have read some posts that mention removal of a washer/seal within the master cylinder. Is that necessary, and which seal is it?
Thanks for any help

[King Kenny]

Hi. I have Ford based discs fitted many years ago. The best modification I have ever done. The seal neds to be removed to prevent the pads from continually rubbing on the disk.

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[philthehill]

https://www.morrisminorspares.com/brake ... es-p829373
The remote brake fluid reservoir will work with the original Lockheed brake master cylinder. It will not work with a pattern/after market master cylinder as the rear upper plug of the pattern master cylinder is of a different size..
You will need to replace the original master cylinder vented filler plug with the non vented type.
https://www.morrisminorspares.com/brake ... it-p829339

[DavidAH]

Thanks for your replies guys.
Just to get this straight in my head, I use the Lockheed brake master cylinder with a non-vented filler plug and remove the seal as shown in the diagram….is that correct?

[philthehill]

Correct!

[Jim McCrae]

The clear tubing provided with the remote reservoir is not fit for purpose - it will react with brake fluid and will weep. I had lots of problems getting this to seal and had to replace it after only a few months. I suggest that you discard it and buy some proper EPDM brake hose.

[Sleeper]

Tygon 2375 8mm , not cheap but good...

John ;-)

[Steve Harper]

Hi. I have Ford based discs fitted many years ago. The best modification I have ever done. The seal neds to be removed to prevent the pads from continually rubbing on the disk.MC Mod.jpg

Hi Folks, follow up question on this - do I need to remove the seal even if I don't have the remote reservoir?
Thanks in advance.

[Bill_qaz]

Yes it to prevent residual line pressure holding pads in contact, nothing to do with resevoir.
I have the valve removed, marina discs and no remote resevoir. Just check fluid regularly, easy to do, no panels need removing.

[Steve Harper]

Yes it to prevent residual line pressure holding pads in contact, nothing to do with resevoir.
I have the valve removed, marina discs and no remote resevoir. Just check fluid regularly, easy to do, no panels need removing.

Thanks Bill.
That leads to - how do you check the fluid level without pulling up the carpets and removing the panel?

[philthehill]

Just lift the carpet and undo the reservoir filler cap to check the fluid level.
You do not have to remove any panels.

[Bill_qaz]

Yes it to prevent residual line pressure holding pads in contact, nothing to do with resevoir.
I have the valve removed, marina discs and no remote resevoir. Just check fluid regularly, easy to do, no panels need removing.

Thanks Bill.
That leads to - how do you check the fluid level without pulling up the carpets and removing the panel?

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[Steve Harper]

Yes it to prevent residual line pressure holding pads in contact, nothing to do with resevoir.
I have the valve removed, marina discs and no remote resevoir. Just check fluid regularly, easy to do, no panels need removing.

Thanks Bill.
That leads to - how do you check the fluid level without pulling up the carpets and removing the panel?

Screenshot_20230917-160507_Microsoft 365 (Office).jpg

Duh! Simples! Sorry )
Thanks again.

[Bill_qaz]

Thanks Bill.
That leads to - how do you check the fluid level without pulling up the carpets and removing the panel?

Screenshot_20230917-160507_Microsoft 365 (Office).jpg

Duh! Simples! Sorry )
Thanks again.

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