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minor worry?

Post by gordiechris »

Hi, i have a tad problem, I left the car in a car park over night and instead of putting the hand brake on i decided to leave it in first gear.
When I returned in the morning to collect it, I put it into neuteral before turning the engine, once started the car wouldnt go into any gear, not a single one, just kept grinding!!

any suggestions??

help :( :( :( :(
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Post by alex_holden »

It sounds like the clutch isn't disengaging- the mechanism might need adjusting, or it's remotely possible the friction plate could have got stuck to the flywheel. I can't think of any reason why leaving the car in first gear could have caused that; I've always done it with all my cars and never had a problem.
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Post by crossword »

Hope it's sorted by now , if not , try engaging third with engine off , then get an assistant to rock the car backwards & forwards with the clutch down . This may free a stuck clutch plate , although I am surprised it stuck overnight . I did free a stuck clutch by starting the car in gear then driving with the clutch down but dont try this anywhere busy . Lastly this happened to my brothers car in our first incarnation driving morris minors & was a cracked clutch pressure plate .

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Post by bmcecosse »

Friday 13th problem!! You will need to inspect the linkages to the clutch in case something has come loose. It's highly unlikely the plate will have stuck overnight - but then it was Friday 13th so I suppose anthing is possible.
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Post by gordiechris »

new news on my gear box, the car won't engage gear now and just grinds like you wouldn't belive. I thought maybe the halfshafts by see if the prop turns but nothing. what other tests are there that i can do to see what the problem is or should i just take the gearbox off and sort it this way?

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Post by Kevin »

new news on my gear box, the car won't engage gear now and just grinds like you wouldn't belive.
Isnt that the same symptons you had over 3 weeks ago ?
Have you checked the linkage as suggested ?
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Post by rayofleamington »

grinding noise and problems to put the gear lever into gear means that there is torque transferring through the clutch - if you continue to try engaging gears with a dragging clutch the gearbox will eventually get damaged.
Suggestions above to check the clutch and linkages would be the first logical step.
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Post by gordiechris »

all links and rods have been checked and are fine, it seems that the problem lies in the gearbox itself. there is a rubber grommet on the bell housing so hopefully it is just the plate or something moved and i maybe be able to push it back?

who knows
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Post by bigginger »

Errrr - quite a few of us. You might see more through that hole, but don't pin your hopes on working through it.
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Post by Kevin »

You might see more through that hole, but don't pin your hopes on working through it.
Both my head and hands are to big to work through it :cry:
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Quite :D
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Post by crossword »

If the linkages & free play are correct , what you describe seems to be a clutch that does not disengage . My last suggestion would be to remove the spark plugs , noting which lead goes where , then either in first or reverse gear depending upon which way you are facing operate the starter with the clutch fully depressed . if the car moves the halfshafts are probably ok . If you are nervous of this, engage an assistant to press the clutch or block it down with a piece of wood , then turn the engine with the starting handle . If you do get movement of the car I suggest strip down the clutch .
This assumes the car moves freely with the handbrake released .
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