Position of Chief Concours Judge

[Judge]

They probably do not frequent this forum Bill. Not many concourse folk do,

Some do, but this is why the post has also been advertised in Minor Matters.

....... so maybe more in the Minor Magazines would be more fruitful for you.......

Minor Magazines????

......or could you contact those in the top flight of concours directly, if they compete in this area then they must be aware of the judging criteria, and as such require minimal training.

Unfortunately I am unaware of any other concours that uses the same exacting standards. However if you know of any, perhaps you could let me know.

Either this or maybe the club will have to accept a lowering of standards temporarily until the 'right' person can be found or trained up.

I would see this as very damaging to the reputation that MMOC Concours has earned within the classic car world, and would rather that there was no concours within the club at all.

Or maybe you could be convinced to stay on, to save the day

I think you are well aware of why I resigned.

[jonathon]

Sorry, thought they were reasonable comments As you have said that the top judge needs to have competed at the highest level and you have not yet had a reply from the limited number of concours exhibitors, then it would seem reasonable to say that you are not going to reach them via this forum, hence my suggestion that you repeat or expand on the nature and demands that the job entails via the Minor mags, Minor Matters and Minor Monthly.
When I suggested that you contact those in the top flight of concours I did actually mean MMOC events, and I think you know this.
Its a shame that the participants in concours will suffer as a direct result of loosing you as a Judge Bill, if it meant that the events are still held, but under a less exacting standard for the meantime, then this does seem reasonable, if not wholly ideal. Hopefully a Morris Minor Concours competitor will read your plea and be trained up in time for next years events
I am aware of your reasons for resignation Bill, but it seems a shame that so many will no longer be able to show if a replacement is not found. Im not questioning your reasons at all.

[Judge]

I think you may have misunderstood my post Jonathon, it wasn't meant to criticise your comments.

I have spoken to the concours entrants, and understand their reasons for not wanting to take on the position, it is a big commitment. I have also discussed my reasons for not wanting to lower standards. Firstly what incentive would there be to improve the standard of your own car if even without any real effort you still won? ....and also what satisfaction would there be in winning knowing that you are winning because the standards are lower?

However concours entrants will still be able to enter non MMOC competions where standards have not been compromised, and continue to get a great deal of satisfaction when they win.

[jonathon]

I can understand what you say about the lowering of standards. But if this were only temporary and the enterants were willing to accept this then, this might be the only option,save for canceling the competition.
Mind, it will only be the judging standard that might be lowered rather than the cars condition.
As you say if those at the high end of the showing can compete in non MMOC events they will not really suffer I suppose

[Judge]

As you say if those at the high end of the showing can compete in non MMOC events they will not really suffer I suppose

For those of you that are interested in continuing to show at Concours level during 2008, and compete against similar cars, which in my opinion makes winning far more meaningful, take a look at these.

http://www.necclassicmotorshow.com/news.asp?NewsID=123

http://www.heritage-motor-centre.co.uk/ ... oglym.html

http://www.wroughtonclassic.org.uk/08concours.htm

Good luck, I might see you at one

[Judge]

Still no volunteers

Looks like the concours entrants will now be entering Condition Class in 2008

[Judge]

Although I am not clear as to whether there will be any Concours events this year, I would like to confirm that a cheque for a total of £1,318.44, which was the balance of the Concours account held by me, has now been sent to the Treasurer. This figure excludes the 2008 MMOC allowance of £850. I have been assured that this will be used for Concours events only in the future. It should be pointed out that it contains moneys taken as a levy from all Concours entrants.