Most boring F 1 GP ever ?

[bmcecosse]

Ahh - but decent develpment of the KERS will have benefits for highway motoring! All our cars should have it - a means to store the braking energy and deliver back to the wheels when accelerating away. And - it's in the regs NOW - so it's something they can do NOW. Any other big changes are going to take a long time to filter through - except perhaps the two pit stop idea!

[billlobban]

Ahh - but decent develpment of the KERS will have benefits for highway motoring! All our cars should have it - a means to store the braking energy and deliver back to the wheels when accelerating away.

Do you have to fit Wolsley brakes to instal KERS or should I just run the starter motor when going up hills

[bmcecosse]

Well - the larger drums do help to store a bit more energy in a sort of 'flywheel' effect.........

[Blaketon]

Let’s see what happens for the rest of the season. As I have said, wings have been around for 40 years and other formulae have them. I think a lot of it is that the cars are too fast for the circuits and that you almost need a Mulsanne straight to pass. The cars are all too evenly matched. Two seconds difference in lap times may cover the top ten and may be a lot in terms of the sport but in relative terms, its still pretty marginal. My MGB GT V8 may be faster than a Triumph TR6 but I’d still need a long straight to pass one being driven flat out; even with a 10+mph speed advantage, at 120 + mph, you’re covering a lot of ground each second.

Why not raid the Donington collection (And others) of some exhibits? They’d have to be of the same type. My preference would be for 1 ½ Litre cars, like the Lotus 25 but then I’m thinking the Lotus 49, with the DFV, was a lovely thing or how about the Auto Unions and Mercedes of the 1930s, with a few ERAs, Alfas and Maseratis thrown in…or how about the 2 1/2 litre cars, such as the Maserati 250F and the like…It’s a tough one . If they could get it to run for more than two laps, the V16 BRM could be good.

[billlobban]

If they could get it to run for more than two laps, the V16 BRM could be good.

Now that would be Fantasy F-1

[jonathon]

If F1 racing was like this ..........WOW

http://www.motorstv.com/videos?v=gc_yP39fRXk

[bmcecosse]

Oh dear - I feel a bit giddy after watching that........ Off for a nice lie-down.

[billlobban]

If only

[jonathon]

Try these

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThckDR0XDcY

[rayofleamington]

Ahh - but decent develpment of the KERS will have benefits for highway motoring!

F1 KERS and highway applications of BER (brake energy recirculation) are very unrelated.
Mainstream road car applications are designed to a system cost and a long durability life, and therefore absolutely nothing from high end racing is carry over these days.


FWIW BERS was developed for road use nearly 30 years ago where a Midlands based pilot scheme was run on buses. Apparently it was extremely successful - however thanks to a lack of joined up thinking it was more important to make bus companies privatised than it was to make buses more fuel efficient.


BER is still alive and modern technologies vary from mechanical flywheel systems to chemical (battery) based as well as old-school technology such as compressed air. Unfortunately the car industry is busy trying to out-compete itself in the open market and without sensible direction from legislation, so useful fuel saving technologies will be badly hashed together last minute. (I'm refering to corporate fuel economy targets, which do nothing to chance the customer's wish list when buying a car)

oops - getting lost from the F1 topic!
In case people didn't notice, an F1 car tends not to spill all its fuel in a crash - thanks to legislation and some good technology.

Overtaking - cars are now far too aerodynamically efficient so that following is hard, let alone overtaking. Unless they can dramatically restrict the downforce and still not have crazy high speeds (i.e. some kind of power limit) then overtaking on the tarmac will still be rare.

[jonathon]

Have a look here ,may be BMW think otherwise

http://www.carsguide.com.au/site/news-a ... ers_system