Brakes

Post by **iddy** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 5:38 pm

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Post by **iddy** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 5:39 pm

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Post by **iddy** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 5:54 pm

Sorry about the big photo - I wasn't sure which link would lead to the photoshop thingy.

I've been trying to get the car ready for the mot, I noticed that there was excessive play on the wheel bearings so decided to repack with grease and adjust. The one wheel was ok, but on the second wheel the bearing came out in bits.
I've taken the disk and bits to a bearing specialist on the Industrial Estate, and he's measured them up and ordered replacements.
Question 1: How do I go about replacing the bearings? I've never replaced then before, only greased and adjusted.
Question 2: The car has had disks fitted instead of drums, and the previous owner has no idea what model car they are from. Does anyone recognise the parts from the photos. I need to know in case I need a seal when changing the bearings. Also, if I need to change the disks or pads in the future.
Thanks from a tired and fed up Welshman (and boy, when we're down we're down, luckily it doesn't last too long. Must be the Celtic genes!)

Idris.

Post by **bmcecosse** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 7:59 pm

Pads and caliper look surprisingly small. My Mini ones (ex Fiesta) are much larger! Yet still go under the 10" wheels - which is of course the point of them. The offset studs look scarey - but well enough done. If these had been Ford parts I think it would be marked on them - so is this the Marina set-up ?

Post by **jonathon** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:20 pm

Well done that man ! It is indeed the Marina set up. However its not quite as easy as it seems, as there were two types of kit offered here. O Burton was responsible for the kit which fits onto the Minor stub axle with bearings from an old Peugeot. The other better engineered kit was offered by C.S Autoclassics, this kit employed the stub axle from the Marina/Ital fitted into a re engineered swivel pin, this uses the standard Marina bearings and seals. You will need to determine which kit you have and order correspondingly.
You will need to drift the old bearing seats out and press in the new ones, grease liberally fit the bearings and tighten finger tight with the hub nut. Finish assembling with the disc etc and fit the road wheel, take the slack out of the bearing by tightening the hub nut , do not overtighten.

Post by **bmcecosse** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:48 pm

Ah - so no spacer between the bearings ! Your life is hanging on a loose nut!! Be sure to use a NEW split pin.

Post by **iddy** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:51 pm

Thanks for the info lads.
A silly question, but will I need to remove the seal on the back of the disc? If so, then this is where the problem of finding out which kit has been fitted is important

Or can I reuse the seal

There's a cold shiver running down my back - I've got a horrible feeling the car will be stuck in the drive on three wheels for some time to come

Idris

Post by **jonathon** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:53 pm

This is the way all modern hubs are attatched, so I'd have thought the collective minds of Ford, BMW, VW, Citroen etc would have spotted any flaw in the design .

Post by **bmcecosse** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:54 pm

Most seals are marked with the size - but to specify it all you need is the outer diameter, inner diameter and thickness. Then pop in to Bearing Services and ask! However - these days everything is ghastly metric sizes - so to get imperial size seal may take a day or two, and cost a lot more. beware too - BS may have a minimum order charge - but they would get the bearings for you too !

Post by **jonathon** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 9:00 pm

The seal should be a standard Ital one at anout £3. This is common to either kit.

Post by **iddy** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 9:01 pm

Thanks again, lads,

Got to go to work now, it'll give me something to think about in the small hours.

Idris