Lockheed or pattern that is the question

Post by **mu0u207b** » Sun Nov 13, 2005 4:10 pm

Hi there, with all my braking problems it looks like im going to have to buy a new master cylinder. I have two options either the cheaper pattern type or the more expensive genuine lockheed m/c. Is there a difference in reliability and quality between the two. I dont want to get the lockheed one and just pay for the name when the pattern type is exactly of the same casting and build quality.

Post by **simmitc** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 9:19 pm

I've not compared a genuine with a pattern master cylinder, but if you ever put a pattern rear wheel cylinder beside a lockheed (delphi / AP) then the difference is obvious; and even at the current price of £25, the "genuine" is worth it. There's been a lot of buying and selling of companies and "names" recently, so it's worth checking that the new cylinder is "genuine", but if so, then go for it.

Post by **rayofleamington** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:40 pm

The Lockheed one is by no means genuine, but the internals are (in theory) made to the correct sizes, therefore in 15 years you will be able to get a replacement seal kit, however the same option is very unlikely for the pattern one.
Same goes with brake cylinders - I needed a new seal for a (brand new) pattern cylinder, however the only option was to chuck the whole thing away.