Warranty certificates.

[firedrake1942]

I have picked up a couple of these at auto jumbles one is late Series II and one early Series III. The one for my 1957 Minor was lost before I bought it and I am looking to get them reproduced. One is typed, one hand written. The latter has a dealer stamp

However I believe they changed somewhat over the years and I am looking for images of the various issues.

I would be grateful if anyone who still has one of these documents could post a photo of front and back so that I can get various types remade. It would also be useful to gain an idea of the level of interest in such reproductions.

Many thanks.

[King Kenny]

Isthis what you are looking for?

Garantee XGW front Large.jpeg (423.99 KiB) Viewed 428 times

Garantee XGW rear Large.jpeg (346.38 KiB) Viewed 428 times

[firedrake1942]

Exactly that. Many thanks, King Kenny.

It appears identical to the later Series II and early Series III certificates that I have from autojumbles.

The Series II certificate has, like yours, a typed 'P.M.' in the bottom left-hand corner (and is on slightly heavier paper), whereas the Series III one does not. No idea what that is for.

Neither of mine have any form of watermark in the paper.

The printer's reference (?) on yours (rear bottom right) is also the same as the Series II but that on the Series III reads NPC 30/24 (3819).

All have a perforated left-hand edge. There may have been a counterfoil. ('This portion...' etc.) All are UK only certificates. I wonder how CKD or export ones differed?

Another oddity (well, this is Minor related!) both your certificate and the later Series II (1956) have Leonard Lord's facsimile signature. In your case I suspect that they were using up pre-printed documents as he stood down as Chairman of BMC in 1961, left the board in 1966 and died in 1967. The Series III certificate does not bear his name.

If anyone else can post these I would be grateful for completeness.

I suspect that much earlier cars may have different versions as they may predate the Austin / Morris merger as BMC in 1953.

I should add that I fully understand if you want to redact the chassis / engine numbers, but leaving the date would be useful.

[King Kenny]

I should have said that I have reproduced the typed information to match my car. Sorry to confuse you.

[firedrake1942]

Was yours blank then? or is it photoshopped?

[firedrake1942]

There is an echo in here. It may not be everyone's cup of tea, but a straw poll locally seems to indicate a degree of interest.

Another plea for early mid and late versions of the Morris / Nuffield Warranty certificate so that as and when I do get them. made I can ensure that they are for the right age of car. I know that the delivery envelope with the driver's handbook changed over the years, I am assuming that these did too. / model / series.

As before, if you dont want the details of the car to appear, feel free to redact, or PM me with an image.

Many thanks...

JM

[King Kenny]

Was yours blank then? or is it photoshopped?

I photoshopped a scanned image.

[firedrake1942]

Interesting. Potentially cost saving too. What period was the certificate from originally ie VRM of the original car?

The paper is quite thick on the originals, what did you use to print it on?

[Mervin]

Are you hoping to make a warranty claim?

[firedrake1942]

As stated earlier, I am looking to reproduce these in a high quality manner and for that I need to understand how they may have changed over the years with changes in model / spec. This is primarily to make one for my own car but also for anyone else who may be interested, which to judge by the response, both silent and asinine, is very few.

[Paladin1962]

Not to change the subject substantially, but I find this interesting because I have the owner's manual from my '52 Plymouth Cambridge and it contains what must have been an outstanding warranty for the time.... 6 months! After that, you were on your own! I think ALL the major manufacturers had very short and limited scope warranties until the mid-70's. I have no paperwork for my '57 at all. Everything related to it is interesting to me.

[geoberni]

Not to change the subject substantially, but I find this interesting because I have the owner's manual from my '52 Plymouth Cambridge and it contains what must have been an outstanding warranty for the time.... 6 months! After that, you were on your own! I think ALL the major manufacturers had very short and limited scope warranties until the mid-70's. I have no paperwork for my '57 at all. Everything related to it is interesting to me.

Having lived in the US for 3 years, Nevada 2007-10, I was shocked at the way the used/pre-owned dealers were still behaving like 1950s car sellers.
'Drive off the Lot and it's your problem Sucker'...
So 6 mths on 1950s brand new doesn't surprise me at all.