1957 MM Barn Find

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Re: 1957 MM Barn Find

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This being a 1957, the fan, crank pulley and sump may be red. My 57 did. Also notice the less green and more grey engine colour. I believe there still was some differences between Austin and Morris engines including the numbering and colour.
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Re: 1957 MM Barn Find

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jaekl wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 12:40 pm This being a 1957, the fan, crank pulley and sump may be red. My 57 did. Also notice the less green and more grey engine colour. I believe there still was some differences between Austin and Morris engines including the numbering and colour.
I did think that about the Fan Boss, but it seemed the same as the splodge on the Rocker Cover, which seems to be the Blue/Grey colour of some engines.
This pair of photos from Original Morris Minor illustrates some of the colour differences on the SII 803 engines...
LH one has the optional Oil Bath Filter of the export cars, whether that affects the engine colour choice I have not a scoobie ....
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Re: 1957 MM Barn Find

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No, its definitely some kind of paint.

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You can see the pipe that comes from the oil bath to the rocker cover, covered in that awful paint.
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Re: 1957 MM Barn Find

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Smear the gaskets with general purpose grease before fitting do not soak in oil.

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Re: 1957 MM Barn Find

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Strange.
It couldn't perhaps be a hose of some red/orange rubber-like material that has degraded over the decades and become a soft squishy substance.

I've seen that occur with some rubber type gaskets on old equipment from the '50s/60s. They turned into soft mush.
Heaven knows what would happen if such material was also subject to hot oil contamination during it's use.
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Re: 1957 MM Barn Find

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philthehill wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 3:34 pm Smear the gaskets with general purpose grease before fitting do not soak in oil.
:tu1: I get mixed up with which are greased and which are oil soaked... I just know not to put Hylomar over everything... :)
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Re: 1957 MM Barn Find

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Grease the engine gaskets and soak the cork seals of the sump in oil overnight.

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philthehill wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 4:35 pm Grease the engine gaskets and soak the cork seals of the sump in oil overnight.
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Re: 1957 MM Barn Find DAY 7

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An update from my Facebook page.

Day 7: News from the engineer on the engine, I start stripping bodywork, the carburetor has gone to Dad for overhaul and I'm giving a shout out to the one negative follower 👋🏻 on here that states that Muriel will never run again.
Another day away from work and spending time with Muriel. I'm conscious that Bootsie desperately needs some work done on him before my adventures next year, but with being let down on the unit and, having to try and get a major part of Muriel up and running again, I know I need to keep going on whichever vehicle I can at the time.
The day started with opening the container door and being greeted by that happy, smiley appearance 😊 that Muriel gives, but before i started, it was time for some news from the engineer regarding her engine. The block had been pronounced good, but will require skimming and a rebore to +60. The pistons were scrap as I already knew, so I'll need to order +60 pistons. The conrods had also been checked and are good.
The crank was good for another regrind.
The rocker shaft has failed and will need a replacement and the valves are seized into the cylinder head, so looking at a replacement cylinder head, converted to run on unleaded.
Mark at Absolute Engines is now going ahead with the skim and rebore. After that, he'll call me and go through everything that needs replacing at his end. I can also now start ordering replacement parts needed at my end too. 💰💰💰
I've sent the carburetor to my Dad as it's not something I'm confident with stripping and Dads' a bit of a whizz with them. So far he's reported a fair bit of wear and I'll need to order replacement parts.
The weather was poor and I had to work inside the container, meaning I was a little restricted, but managed to clean up and check the tie plates in the engine bay and get the passenger front wing off, uncovering rot, which I knew was there anyway.
Realistically, I won't get all the parts for the engine build in time for the Christmas holiday, so I'll try and get the other three wings removed, along with the front and rear doors., boot lid, front and rear windscreen engine bay stripped and the back seat before jetwashing the whole car down and de greasing the engine bay.
Some pictures below (which may look a little depressing) which aren't the most exciting.
Something I never normally do, but I have one very negative follower who states "that bag of cr£p will never run again" and I wanted to give a big shoutout to that person and tell them how very sorry I feel for them, clearly lacking any kind of drive or determination in their own life. 😝👋🏻
As always, thank you to all those of you who read, support, chat to me by PM or face to face about Muriel and my adventures with Bootsie. I always appreciate it.

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Re: 1957 MM Barn Find

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Never mind the nay-sayers, you're doing good work and Muriel will be a fantastic car when finished! 8)
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Re: 1957 MM Barn Find

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We have one small issue with the thread, Facebook are invalidating the image urls after a time limit has passed, so only the latest few images can be seen (and even then, in my case, I have to right click the word 'image' and open it in a new tab for them to show up).

Apart (strangely) from the very first image in the very first post which loads as expected and is still a valid url, all others before the latest post all give an "Url Signature Expired" message from facebook when attempting to view them.
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