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Fitting beehive springs.

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Does anyone have any tips for removing and fitting the beehive springs into the rear brake shoes. I've seen people say they aren't needed but I wasn't sure myself.

I apologise if I'm bringing up an old argument.
Thanks.
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Re: Fitting beehive springs.

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I use a short pair of pointed nose pliers inserted into the centre of the bee hive spring.

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See this thread that I started a while back. It is not an argument but specifically about how to fit the springs.

viewtopic.php?t=77310&hilit=Beehive+springs+again

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Previously I used a pair of long nosed pliers. I now have a homemade "special" tool comprising of a 1/4" drive 5.5mm deep socket and a 1/4" nut driver. A slot has to be cut into the socket to accomodate the spring. Picture?
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olonas wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 10:07 am Previously I used a pair of long nosed pliers. I now have a homemade "special" tool comprising of a 1/4" drive 5.5mm deep socket and a 1/4" nut driver. A slot has to be cut into the socket to accomodate the spring. Picture?
Please show the tool you made. I am not very skilled at making stuff but that is probably something I could do.

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svenedin wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 10:19 am
Please show the tool you made. I am not very skilled at making stuff but that is probably something I could do.

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Have a look at 6min 16sec in on this video...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7owZ6_Lsl0
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Myrtles Man wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 12:02 pm
svenedin wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 10:19 am
Please show the tool you made. I am not very skilled at making stuff but that is probably something I could do.

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Have a look at 6min 16sec in on this video...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7owZ6_Lsl0
Excellent. Thank you. Now that is really interesting. I did not realise that the design of the spring hook has completely changed!

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svenedin wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 2:52 pm
Myrtles Man wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 12:02 pm
svenedin wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 10:19 am
Please show the tool you made. I am not very skilled at making stuff but that is probably something I could do.

Stephen
Have a look at 6min 16sec in on this video...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7owZ6_Lsl0
Excellent. Thank you. Now that is really interesting. I did not realise that the design of the spring hook has completely changed!

Stephen
With the leg of the parts supplied hook shortened I found no need to rotate them, just compress with pliers and slide behind the backplate lug. :tu1:
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Bill_qaz wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 3:15 pm
svenedin wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 2:52 pm
Myrtles Man wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 12:02 pm

Have a look at 6min 16sec in on this video...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7owZ6_Lsl0
Excellent. Thank you. Now that is really interesting. I did not realise that the design of the spring hook has completely changed!

Stephen
With the leg of the parts supplied hook shortened I found no need to rotate them, just compress with pliers and slide behind the backplate lug. :tu1:
Yes. I didn’t modify my modern springs because I wasn’t quite sure how to cut the hook down. It’s heavy gauge wire. Also, replacing the shoes is not a frequent job for me by any means.

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svenedin wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 3:19 pm
Bill_qaz wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 3:15 pm
svenedin wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 2:52 pm

Excellent. Thank you. Now that is really interesting. I did not realise that the design of the spring hook has completely changed!

Stephen
With the leg of the parts supplied hook shortened I found no need to rotate them, just compress with pliers and slide behind the backplate lug. :tu1:


Yes. I didn’t modify my modern springs because I wasn’t quite sure how to cut the hook down. It’s heavy gauge wire. Also, replacing the shoes is not a frequent job for me by any means.

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I just held it in the vice and used a hacksaw, they cut very easily :tu1:
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Bill_qaz wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 4:43 pm
svenedin wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 3:19 pm
Bill_qaz wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 3:15 pm
With the leg of the parts supplied hook shortened I found no need to rotate them, just compress with pliers and slide behind the backplate lug. :tu1:


Yes. I didn’t modify my modern springs because I wasn’t quite sure how to cut the hook down. It’s heavy gauge wire. Also, replacing the shoes is not a frequent job for me by any means.

Stephen
I just held it in the vice and used a hacksaw, they cut very easily :tu1:
Good to know. I can do that! As I said I was too lazy to even try.

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Same idea as in that video. I seem to remember posting a comparison picture highlighting the difference between original and new springs.
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