What is this bracket thing on my engine? Standard?

[purps]

I have a 1098 cc Traveller engine fitted to my Minor, and was wondering what this funny black bracket and what I assume to be lifting eyes are all about? Are they standard? I tried to leave them off but of course the rocket cover bolts bottomed out. Picture attached.

Cheers,
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[purps]

Hmm, beginning to think my engine might not be from a Traveller! It's 10V/190E/HXXXXX (where Xs are numbers).

[LUR759H]

mine is a 1098 trav engine i added the lifting brackets to mine ive no idea what the funny arm is...

Alan[frame][/frame]

[simmitc]

The lifting eyes are standard BMC items for A-series engines. Thye are usually fitted only when lifting the engine, and kept somewhere safe at other times. When the eyes are not fitted, then there should be a thick (similar to the thickness of the eyes, maybe a tad more) washer that acts as a spacer and allows the bolt to secure the cover. Remember that there should also be the rubber seals and slightly shaped caps in place too. I've not seen the bracket before - is it strong enough to be used as a handle for assisting in moving the lump around?

[shed]

Bracket is the support for an air filter.it's back to front and half missing.[frame][/frame]

[purps]

Ah ha! By pure coincidence I am looking to put the original air filter back on the engine, brilliant. Thank you all.

So is it missing something other than the filter housing itself? Can I see a separate plate in that photo?

Cheers,
Matt.

[stevey]

standard for series 2 air cleaner

[philthehill]

I would suggest that the Ser 2 air filter is not compatible with the later manifold and HS2 carb.

[simmitc]

^^^ Agreed ^^^. This is a 1098cc car and should have a late style air filter.

[purps]

Thanks for the replies chaps.

So when you say late style, does that mean its missing its breather pipe? I have to admit I'm slightly confused about my engine, I have read various threads and can't quite piece it together!

If the rocker cover breather hole is missing, does that mean I have that closed circuit breathing system that I have read about on later engines? Of course somebody could have fitted some random rocker cover to my 1098 cc engine, is there any way I can confirm what I have exactly, or is it buried inside?

Cheers,
Matt.

[philthehill]

Firstly - for the manifold/carb set up you have you need the type of air cleaner (Pt No: 12G316) as displayed in the photo above provided by LUR759H. You will have to find a S/H one as they are no longer stocked by the likes of MOSS. Base only available from ESM (Pt No: 123A).

Secondly - I suspect that you have the cam follower front housing cover (Pt No: 12A1212) also shown in LUR759Hs photo with the can oil diffuser attached because in your picture you have what appears to be the breather pipe coming from the diffuser to the rear side of the carb.

Thirdly - the sealed breather system is dependent upon what oil filler cap you have; if it is a non vented cap (Pt No: 12A402) your system is sealed - if vented (Pt No: GFE6003) the system is not a sealed but should be. Because you have the other requirements for a sealed system it should fitted with the non vented filler cap.

Fourthly - The lack of a top breather pipe taken off the rocker cover as in LUR759Hs picture further indicates that you have a sealed breathing system.

Fifthly - if it is running alright and you are not getting any fumes inside the car leave well alone and just fit the correct air cleaner assy.

Job done

[LUR759H]

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[LUR759H]

just to make things extra clear...

hope you have yours sorted

Alan

[LUR759H]

and another picture just in case...

alan[frame][/frame]

[purps]

Thank you so much for the replies chaps, that's a lot clearer.

So the presence of what I believe to be the oil diffuser suggests that it is a sealed system (referring to the green cylinder at the bottom of Alan's picture). And as Phil says the lack of breather on the rocker cover again points to this. However my cap IS vented, so sounds like I need to get this changed.

I looked everywhere at Beaulieu last weekend and couldn't find an air cleaner housing Well I found one, but the pipe had been hacked off. Thinking about it maybe I should have bought it, because it had the plate etc.

So is there any such thing as a housing with the breather omitted? Or do they all have them, and it's up to me to block it off with something?

Cheers,
Matt.

[LUR759H]

Hi there is one on ebay for just 10£ item number 111454597210 you them simply connect to the filter using a pipe and clips.

and the gasket is just about 3£ item number 181420488415...

I hope this helps

Alan

[Chipper]

Some 1098cc engines had an additional rubber hose that went from an angled pipe on the rocker cover to the stub on the back of the air filter.

The later ones just had the hose from the oil trap on the tappet chest cover direct to the base of the carb, and a ventilated plastic oil filler cap, with a gauze inside (which should be washed out with petrol every so often).

[LUR759H]

Yes mine went from rocker cover to filter but i also have the side vent on the chest not sure i need both but i do!!

Alan

[purps]

Sorry chaps but this has thoroughly confused me now (doesn't take much).

Alan, you seem to be suggesting that I change my rocker cover?? Why would I do that when (I think) we've established I have a closed-circuit breather system?

Chipper is suggesting that for my setup I need a vented cap, yet philthehill is suggesting that I should not have a vented cap.

Let me just ask this - on later 1098 engines with closed-circuit breather, where does the pipe from the air cleaner housing attach (if anywhere)?

Sorry again if I'm being dense.

Cheers,
Matt.

[LUR759H]

hi matt,

here is a pic of mine as you can see i have a vaulve or open pipe at the side of my engine also on the rocker cover a hose would normally be connected from the rocker cover outlet to the side of my filter and the opening on the side of the engine would be left open, i hope this helps a little

alan
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