So once I get my bolts I will start wiring..... Joys
So much for this easy alternator installation :(
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So much for this easy alternator installation :(
So thought I'd do my conversion finally and now having to get two new bolts and took me two hours to get the dynamo off -_- doesn't seem to have been taken off for maaaay many years :S as far as I can see the pulleys line up
So once I get my bolts I will start wiring..... Joys
So once I get my bolts I will start wiring..... Joys
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------1968 Morris Minor - 2 door - Smoke Grey - De luxe - called Norma
-1970 Morris traveller - trafalgar blue - De luxe - called Ona
-1970 Morris traveller - trafalgar blue - De luxe - called Ona
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alexmcguffie
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Re: So much for this easy alternator installation :(
I'm sure the alternator installation will be easy. Its the dynamo removal that has been difficult 
Hope its not your everyday car?
Hope its not your everyday car?
Glad to be back!
Re: So much for this easy alternator installation :(
Well yeah I've been into college today and re threaded a bolt and replaced another for a longer one so I can put a but on the other end now to tighten everything up and wire it upalexmcguffie wrote:I'm sure the alternator installation will be easy. Its the dynamo removal that has been difficult
Hope its not your everyday car?
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------1968 Morris Minor - 2 door - Smoke Grey - De luxe - called Norma
-1970 Morris traveller - trafalgar blue - De luxe - called Ona
-1970 Morris traveller - trafalgar blue - De luxe - called Ona
Re: So much for this easy alternator installation :(
Not usually a problem - the dynamo bolts are generally a bit 'oily' and come off easily enough. Were you using the correct AF ring spanners ? Why do you need new bolts?



Re: So much for this easy alternator installation :(
Yep they were oily and the nut came off easily but the main bracket bolt at the front of the dynamo was almost welded into the bracketbmcecosse wrote:Not usually a problem - the dynamo bolts are generally a bit 'oily' and come off easily enough. Were you using the correct AF ring spanners ? Why do you need new bolts?
Yes I was using the correct size it was a 1/2 inch if I remember right
Also I had to get another bolt as the bottom bolt was to short as the original one was screwed into the dynamo bottom (dynamo bottom hole was threaded) so I had to get a longer bolt as the alternator hope was made even to big to tap a thread in to it
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------1968 Morris Minor - 2 door - Smoke Grey - De luxe - called Norma
-1970 Morris traveller - trafalgar blue - De luxe - called Ona
-1970 Morris traveller - trafalgar blue - De luxe - called Ona
Re: So much for this easy alternator installation :(
Ahh right - did the Alt not come with a new bolt/nut ? You'll need a new/shorter fan belt - did that come with the 'kit'? it is critical to ensure the pulleys end up exactly in line. It's v common to need a thin washer twixt water pump lug and alternator top front mounting lug.



Re: So much for this easy alternator installation :(
Nooo?bmcecosse wrote:Ahh right - did the Alt not come with a new bolt/nut ? You'll need a new/shorter fan belt - did that come with the 'kit'? it is critical to ensure the pulleys end up exactly in line. It's v common to need a thin washer twixt water pump lug and alternator top front mounting lug.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------1968 Morris Minor - 2 door - Smoke Grey - De luxe - called Norma
-1970 Morris traveller - trafalgar blue - De luxe - called Ona
-1970 Morris traveller - trafalgar blue - De luxe - called Ona
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katy
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Re: So much for this easy alternator installation :(
W/the engine running at a good speed, should be around 14 (13.8 - 14.2)what should I be looking for voltage wise
Talk slow, think fast!
Re: So much for this easy alternator installation :(
I seem to be running 13.26 to 13.35katy wrote:W/the engine running at a good speed, should be around 14 (13.8 - 14.2)what should I be looking for voltage wise
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------1968 Morris Minor - 2 door - Smoke Grey - De luxe - called Norma
-1970 Morris traveller - trafalgar blue - De luxe - called Ona
-1970 Morris traveller - trafalgar blue - De luxe - called Ona
Re: So much for this easy alternator installation :(
Doesn't sound correct - should be 14 volts as stated - and must hold that voltage with headlights and heater on. And no red light.... How did you wire it up?



Re: So much for this easy alternator installation :(
Ahhh right I had no headlights or anything on would I expect the same voltage or more with everything on? And well the loom had three connectors one big black plug to go in the back of the alternator one connector for the ign light and one to go on the soilonoid it's as the instructions came with it from ESM I was told to remove 3 connectors off the control box and two off the back of the dynamobmcecosse wrote:Doesn't sound correct - should be 14 volts as stated - and must hold that voltage with headlights and heater on. And no red light.... How did you wire it up?
I will double check tomorrow what the instructions say but everything should be right
the battery could possibly be at fault though as before the conversion when engine turned off battery voltage would rise and when on the dynamo seemed to drain it and if I remember right was showing 8 or 9 volts but maybe less or a little more
Last edited by MoggyBlue on Thu Sep 04, 2014 11:53 pm, edited 1 time in total.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------1968 Morris Minor - 2 door - Smoke Grey - De luxe - called Norma
-1970 Morris traveller - trafalgar blue - De luxe - called Ona
-1970 Morris traveller - trafalgar blue - De luxe - called Ona
Re: So much for this easy alternator installation :(
You are connected to the battery side of the solenoid....? And where did you pick up the Ign light connection? The car is -ve earth I hope !



Re: So much for this easy alternator installation :(
Yep lead going from the battery terminal to the solenoid and it is on therebmcecosse wrote:You are connected to the battery side of the solenoid....? And where did you pick up the Ign light connection? The car is -ve earth I hope !
And the connection was the one originally plugged into the control box a brown and green (I think), a think brown and yellow and a fat brown and yellow
And yes the car is -ive well I bloody hope so
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------1968 Morris Minor - 2 door - Smoke Grey - De luxe - called Norma
-1970 Morris traveller - trafalgar blue - De luxe - called Ona
-1970 Morris traveller - trafalgar blue - De luxe - called Ona
Re: So much for this easy alternator installation :(
You only connect to the thin wire - NOT the thick wire... Leave it connected to the old Regulator.



Re: So much for this easy alternator installation :(
Yeah the light is connected to the thin wirebmcecosse wrote:You only connect to the thin wire - NOT the thick wire... Leave it connected to the old Regulator.
The thick one and brown and green are just unplugged
So your saying put the thick brown and yellow back on? But wasnt the other end connected to the dynamo ( no longer connected)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------1968 Morris Minor - 2 door - Smoke Grey - De luxe - called Norma
-1970 Morris traveller - trafalgar blue - De luxe - called Ona
-1970 Morris traveller - trafalgar blue - De luxe - called Ona
Re: So much for this easy alternator installation :(
Don't connect it to the alternator.. Leave it on the Regulator if it's still in place.



Re: So much for this easy alternator installation :(
Ok these pictures I have taken. I have changed nothingbmcecosse wrote:Don't connect it to the alternator.. Leave it on the Regulator if it's still in place.
These pictures are of each terminal I have fitted and what has been disconnected
These are the instructions and diagram suplied with the conversion[frame]
This is the back of the alternator[frame]
This is the solenoid sorry it's upside down
This is the control box the two wires I am holding have been disconnected and the new looking third wire goes to the warning light[frame]
Last of all this is the box there are three connectors I have disconnected[frame]
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------1968 Morris Minor - 2 door - Smoke Grey - De luxe - called Norma
-1970 Morris traveller - trafalgar blue - De luxe - called Ona
-1970 Morris traveller - trafalgar blue - De luxe - called Ona
Re: So much for this easy alternator installation :(
Should be right enough. What does the meter read when the battery is standing - engine not running?



Re: So much for this easy alternator installation :(
Yeah that's what I thoughtbmcecosse wrote:Should be right enough. What does the meter read when the battery is standing - engine not running?
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------1968 Morris Minor - 2 door - Smoke Grey - De luxe - called Norma
-1970 Morris traveller - trafalgar blue - De luxe - called Ona
-1970 Morris traveller - trafalgar blue - De luxe - called Ona
Re: So much for this easy alternator installation :(
Well - the meter seems ok, but it seems to me the alternator is running a bit on the low side - it should be 13.8/14 volts when running at decent revs - and pretty well holding at least 13.8 with headlights on. Is the belt tight enough - not slipping?


