Filling in gaps next to glass on traveller rear door?

[Eightball]

Hello,

What do I need to use to fill in the gap between the glass and wood on a rear traveller door? I've just inherited traveller and hardly know anything about cars, hence my needing advice.

Here's a picture where you can see how the putty (?) has rotted away

http://imgur.com/W4jcODA

I've got some brown linseed oil glazing putty in the house. Would that work? Is there a reasonably-priced Morris filler that would be better? I assume I just pack it in there.

ALso at the bottom of the wooden pillars (?) at the back there are holes. They look drilled. Should I fill them in or leave them alone?

http://imgur.com/5VuwOX1

Any advice appreciated. I'll be working on the street and am inexperienced, so simple solutions would best if possible. I just need to keep the wood from rotting right now.

[bmcecosse]

I can't really make out what your pictures show....... No 'putty' involved - rear door glass would be bedded in Dum-Dum originally - I doubt 'putty' will do a lasting job.

[tysonn]

Although its probably disintegrated on your car there is no putty there.There should be a channel/seal for the window to slide in.Available from parts suppliers.

[MarkyB]

Possibly this one;
http://morrisminorspares.co.uk/shop/pro ... 8ce4c4f19f

[Eightball]

I may post this twice, since I've apparently saved a draft message. I'm not used to this forum yet.

This is the part of the car I'm talking about. The decaying rubber is at the bottom of the right-hand pane of glass on the rear door.

http://imgur.com/GQLFxGx,UobwZhz#1

I know there are channels on the sliding panes on the side (which are something else to be done), but for the rear too?

Incidentally is there supposed to be a gap in the rubber at the end? Here's a shot

http://imgur.com/GQLFxGx,UobwZhz#0

Thanks again for the advice. I don't know the right terms of things yet, which is might this may be a confusing read.

[bmcecosse]

No -there shouldn't be a gap there.

[stanley0070]

Hi there,
On the back doors I think I used this.....
http://www.diy.com/nav/decor/tiles/adhe ... d=13379431

you can also get it in black....
Good luck
Brian......

[stanley0070]

PS ...I also took the windows out, just take the screws out from the rail/beading inside the doors.....

[John Naylor]

Hi,
I know what you are referring to as my traveller has the same problem. As Roy says, the glass was fitted into the back door frame with Dum-Dum between the glass and wood. The Dum-Dum has dried out and broken away leaving gaps for water ingress. As Dum-Dum is no longer available, more modern sealants are now used by body shops and applied with a 'mastic gun'.
(See Caulking T18N alternative in ESM catalogue). I need to remove my rear door windows urgently, clean and protect the wood, re-seal the glass in position. I'd also welcome any advice from somebody who has already done this.

I think Tysson/ MarkyB are on the wrong 'track', referring to sliding side windows in their reference to the stainless sliding channel?

The holes in the bottom of the rear posts are for Coach bolts (T22 in ESM catalogue) which pass through the rear wheel arch section and are important structurally.

Hope this helps.
Regards
John

[tysonn]

I stand corrected,missed the mention of rear door.ESM sell a replacement for DumDum caulking which comes in strips ready to apply.

[Trickydicky]

As an alternative to Dum Dum, you could use this, http://www.wickes.co.uk/Evo-Stik-Plumbe ... g/p/227956

[John Naylor]

Strips ready to apply sounds ideal. That's me sorted. Thanks Tyson.
John

[Eightball]

Thanks for all the help. I feel less stressed knowing that there are some options out there. Just have to see which is feasible right now.

EDIT

Spoke to Jeff at ESM and he was very helpful and patient. Based on that conversation, I think I will try to use silicone for the moment, just something to put a seal between the glass and the wood. The caulking is a great idea, but that's for doing the car overall I think.

[tysonn]

To be fair I reckon the factory would have used it too had it been available at the time.

[irmscher]

Fish tank sealant

[bmcecosse]

I advise against the silicone - do the job properly.

[tysonn]

Thats you told!!!!!

[Eightball]

I advise against the silicone - do the job properly.

I understand it isn't ideal, but getting the full thing done - glass out etc. - isn't possible at the moment. I don't have the skill and I don't know anyone close by that does. (I am in Kings Cross and I think the closest minor garage is up in Edgware.)

[bmcecosse]

The door glass is just held in with beading! Remove the strips of beading wood - and the pane of glass is free! Clean the surfaces - apply the sealer and refit the glass - refitting the strips of timber. Simples!

[Eightball]

Apologies for the bump, but will this sealant do? PRoblem is it doesn't say it's anti-fungal mould - is that necessary?

http://www.screwfix.com/p/dow-corning-7 ... 10ml/62431

It's difficult to find one that's hte right colour, works with wood *and* is anti-fungal

EDIT:

Just spoke to Nick at GDK in Mill Hill and he said non-fungal will be OK.