rear brake bee-hive

[MacD]

I have replaced the shoes, cylinder and springs on my '64 traveller.The springs I took off did not include bee-hive springs
yet the diagram of parts shows them.I can't see any reference to them in the Haynes manual, can anyone tell me where they fit.
Thanks
MacD.

[kennatt]

Don't bother,they are not needed, the springs ,if fitted correctly ,hold the shoes without the b hives,absolute pain to fit as well,

[bmcecosse]

Been covered many times - most folks throw them away......absolutely not necessary.

[philthehill]

So long as you fit the brake springs so that they hold the brake shoe against the back plate i.e. fit them to the back of the brake shoe.
I have never had a problem with the fitting of the Bee-hive (Pt No: RBK111) and I have fitted many scores over the years. Whilst it is not easy there is a knack and that is to get the hook at right angles to the loop, press the spring (using pointed nose pliers holding the centre) and push up (or press down dependent on which shoe you are doing) and jobs done

[bmcecosse]

Oh indeed they are easy to fit as above - I have them (and NEED them) on the TR7 rear brakes - but not necessary on a Minor.

[les]

To answer your question, they fit through a hole in the brake shoes, one at top one at bottom, the spring is then twisted to locate the hook part in eyelets in the back plate. Many don't fit them, as they can be a fiddle and need patience. I seem to stand alone by using them.

[MacD]

Thanks for all the info.
MacD.