Mystery engine

Post by **bigginger** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 1:08 pm

I'll go and do one now - it's not as mangled as the rest of the car!
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Post by **bigginger** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 1:28 pm

OK, a bad pic of t'other side

and the rest of that car!

So isn't Linda's the early type (no cable?) contrary to what Kevin says - Sorry if it is Kevin, just trying to sort out my ignorance
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Post by **Pyoor_Kate** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 1:48 pm

Ahhhh! Your valve is missing the cable attachment. On the most recent ones it looks like a bit of mechano that pivots at the bottom and pushes / pulls that plunger/piston arrangement in and out. The cable attaches there and runs to under the dashboard next to the steering column. This in turn attaches to a little pull-knob which says "Pull Heater", I think.

In my car this has absolutely no effect as the vavle is completely shot and it's permanently on

I expect Cam's got a picture of it; if not, I'll show you next time I come down (or you come here). Either that, or watch Nikki's Heater vid, that's got a shot of the heater valve in it

Post by **bigginger** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:01 pm

I see - that's the engine from the yellow pick up, which I've only ever driven back from Torquay! No sign of the pull switch though, never got as far as thinking about it so hadn't been bothered. Still wondering about Lynda's though

Post by **Kevin** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:02 pm

Looking at your larger picture Andrew It does look like the earlier gate valve as you can see the brass of the body in that picture, so it has got the ealier valve fitted as you said.

Post by **lynda** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:05 pm

Cam wrote:The engine number should be stamped on a little plate (riveted to the engine block) just in front of the cylinder head, below spark plug number 1 (nearest the radiator). Is this where you meant??

Yes, I think so

It was definitely close to spark plug 1, I couldn't tell you whether it was a little plate or not though! My Dad had a look as well and he came up with the same number.

Post by **bigginger** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:35 pm

Kevin wrote:Looking at your larger picture Andrew It does look like the earlier gate valve as you can see the brass of the body in that picture, so it has got the ealier valve fitted as you said.

Phew! Not going barmy just yet then. That's a relief (both not going barmy and spotting the heater valve!) Are they the same fitting into the block? Don't think I can be bothered tracking down the Meccano at the mo, so if I can just swap them over...

Post by **Kevin** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:54 pm

Are they the same fitting into the block?

Well 948CC,1098CC & 1275CC heads are the same.

Post by **bigginger** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:58 pm

Excellent - that's what I'll do then.
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Post by **Willie** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 7:07 pm

GARETH.. I didn't suggest that the engine was from a Riley and
they never used a transverse engine EVER, (until the arrival of the Riley
Mini ) but I think you are probably
correct in thinking that it is a factory recon engine. LYNDA, What colour is it??

Post by **Gareth** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 8:20 pm

Sorry, what I was getting at was: is it possible that a transverse Riley Elf (Mini) Kestrel (1100 and 1300) engine could have been modified to fit the Minor.

Judging by the pictures, it looks green, but then what colour it was when it came out of the factory may have been very different...

Post by **lynda** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 9:45 pm

It is indeed green, but there's definite evidence of painting.... the engine number has a few green splashes on!

Post by **Willie** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 6:32 pm

Well, if it was painted whilst in the car you could try using a
torch and a mirror to see what colour the block is at the rear,
facing the gearbox. If it is silver or gold then you have a recon
engine with a factory number. somebody on here must have
a gold or silver seal engine? What are the prefixes to the number?

Post by **57traveller** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 8:28 am

My saloon has a "Goldseal" engine fitted (1098cc) and has the following - 8G162 ES6013 on the identification plate. Not much help really.

Post by **lynda** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 10:17 am

I'm taking her to visit our local specialist tonight as we've decided we don't really have time to fit seatbelts ourselves until after Christmas! Maybe he will recognise it.....

Post by **Willie** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 6:41 pm

57.....I don't know, the fact that your recon engine has a number
which doesn't relate in any way to the 'normal' numbers suggests
theat Lyndas' is in the same category??

Post by **lynda** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 8:11 pm

Mystery solved (well mostly). It is a 1098 engine, and also has a 1098 gearbox attached! As for the engine number.... well I still don't know why it's so odd, but at least I know what engine my car's got now.

The heater works too. The specialist just turned the knob inside the car a bit further than we had done.

Still, at least it's a nice cheap fix.

Post by **bigginger** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 9:35 pm

bigginger wrote:Isn't it a 1098?
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*Grins smugly*

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Post by **newagetraveller** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 10:43 am

I am not sure if this has been mentioned already but...

if you look on the left hand side of the engine block (the same side as the exhaust manifold), near to the front there should either be a small plate with the engine capacity on it or the engine capacity marked on the block itself, as typically 950 or 1100.

Can you see anything similar on this engine?

Post by **lynda** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 10:55 am

newagetraveller wrote:if you look on the left hand side of the engine block (the same side as the exhaust manifold), near to the front there should either be a small plate with the engine capacity on it or the engine capacity marked on the block itself, as typically 950 or 1100.

Can you see anything similar on this engine?

No, mine didn't have either. Apparently the absence of the 950 mark meant that it is a 1098, even though it didn't have 1100 on it.

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