1951 Lowlight Barn Find Project

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catlotion
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1951 Lowlight Barn Find Project

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Hi Everyone,

The start of my restoration thread... As some of you may have read in other threads, my dad found out about a 1951 Morris Minor Lowlight in a friend's barn. Apparently it had been there for over 30 years after it failed an MOT and the owner couldn't afford to do the work at the time. I managed to acquire it and will attempt to get it back on the road...

She's remarkably complete, but has suffered a few knocks here and there. The car has a rough paint job currently but was grey originally. There's a fair amount of corrosion in the chassis and front wings and a big hole in the floor! The interior isn't half bad but unfortunately one of the front seats isn't original (very frustrating!).

It has a later engine fitted which is Austin badged (1098?) of unknown condition (no oil, rusty dipstick, etc). I also have the original sidevalve engine with gearbox and radiator but no manifold or carb on it. I've got a spare carb from a later engine but no manifold to fit the sidevalve.

My initial questions to the experts are:

- Do you think I should just recondition the 1098 engine and sell the sidevalve?
- I presume the sidevalve was removed for a reason - is there anything catastrophic I should look for when I open it up?
- Am I likely to be able to get hold of a manifold for it? Does anyone have one spare by any chance? :wink:
- Any good tips for chassis/bodywork jobs?

There's plenty of work to do on the chassis - at least one front leg and some nasty repairs needed to the sills, floor, etc but I'm game! Most panels except the front wings are in pretty solid condition considering. My challenge is to get it through an MOT - I don't have the funds to do a full restoration so it's going to be cosmetically 'basic', but I intend to keep it original as possible.

I'll attach relevant photos as I go, but in the meantime some here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7274876@N0 ... 920700133/

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Re: 1951 Lowlight Barn Find Project

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Are you sure it's a 1098 engine? The gearbox has an 803-type stick, and the mounting for the (missing) air filter is for an 803 oil-bath type. Therefore I'd check the engine number to be sure.
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Re: 1951 Lowlight Barn Find Project

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no, I wasn't sure - was just the farmer telling me it was a 1000cc... Will have to lookup the engine number when I find it...

are the 803cc engines any good? pretty small and I imagine parts won't be too easy to come by... :(

Maybe I just put them all on Ebay and try to get a decent 1098 for it...?
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Re: 1951 Lowlight Barn Find Project

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Personally if you have the side valve... put that in.
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Re: 1951 Lowlight Barn Find Project

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I would say that the difference between a full restoration and an MOT restoration would be minimal as far as the bodywork is concerned, looking at the amount of rust in the photos. However it is not beyond salvation
Comments in no particular order.
If the engine in the car has a canister oil filter screwed to the side of the block then it is an 803 which is likely to be seized so no advantage over the side valve which can probably be rebuilt.
The gearbox cover panel has been butchered to fit the 803gear lever but could be sorted with a bit of welding.
You should be able to find a manifold, it should be the same as on the ex military engine but turned upside down
Check if the back axle is original, it should be the square diff casing type and the ratio 9/41 should be stamped on the left axle tube near the filler plug, facing forward.
The speedo is not the original one fitted to the car as it has a trip meter. If it has the serial X69982 1600 then it is the same as mine and will be correct for the side valve engine andgear box.
The back seat looks in good condition and will save you a few pounds.
To convert back to side valve you will need the following parts fitted:- engine, gearbox, propshaft, rear axle, engine mounting, towers and rubber mounts (the same as M1000 gearbox rubbers), manifold and exhaust downpipe, gearbox cross member and rubber mounts, radiator and hoses. Probably more items that I have forgotten.
I would restore it back to the originalside valve but then I am biased
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Re: 1951 Lowlight Barn Find Project

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I agree that it would be a pity not to return her to the original sidevalve engine and 'box. Once they are rebuilt and set up correctly they are alovely little engine. Glad to see that another rare Lowlight will be returning to the road.
Good luck with the restoration and keep us up to date with your progress. :D
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Re: 1951 Lowlight Barn Find Project

Post by Dean »

Sorry I forgot to say... glad to hear you are looking to restore, whatever decision you make on running gear. :D

Be careful removing the rear light castings.... they are tough to find second hand!

The dented rear bumper valence and blade too... don't throw them, I think they are different to later cars.
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Re: 1951 Lowlight Barn Find Project

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The rear bumper assembly on a 51 is the same as a M1000. 48 - 50 had split bumpers. 51 - 54 front bumper valances are different and the two holes in the blade are closer so that the over riders when fitted to 4 door cars do not obstruct the side lights
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Re: 1951 Lowlight Barn Find Project

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Unfortunately I'm not going to be able to pursue this restoration (no garage!). It's simply not practical to do on my drive.

I've posted an advert here, and already have had lots of enquiries about what I'm after but I have no idea. Can anyone advise what this might be worth please?

http://www.mmoc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=45253

thanks
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