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dunketh
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Jacking points

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Any reason I shouldnt cut these off?

They're solid but an eyesore and difficult to underseal/paint around.

My last one didnt have any and I cant say I missed them. :lol:
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Re: Jacking points

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Off with them!
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Re: Jacking points

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Bung a rubber grommet in the ends and forget about them
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Re: Jacking points

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take them off and you will never be tempted to use them,I wouldn't even use them from new,seen too many rip off. Series 11s didn't have them anyway.
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The Series MM/2 jacking points are under the inner wheel arches and are even more dangerous than the M1000[frame]Image[/frame][frame]Image[/frame][frame]Image[/frame][frame]Image[/frame]
Jacking bracket fitted to GPO vans.
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Re: Jacking points

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Interesting pics. Not seen any of those methods/points. :o

I just carry a modern scissor jack and jack it on the chassis legs. Its small and easy to use.
Obviously if the legs can't stand it - I'd have bigger problems. lol
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scissor jacks will kill you or amputate a limb they are very unstable because they have a small base and are very weak in sideways strength. especially on soft ground. always useful also to get a hardwood block about 8" x 8" for a jacking base. get a wind up or diabolic(hydraulic) bottle jack you can get them with a 3 lift screw and they are far more stable and you usually use the handle to place and remove the jack you don't have to climb underneath to set them up.
on my families cars I remove the scissor jack and put a bottle jack in, usually doesn't fit neatly but our lives and health are worth more. at least the morrie has plenty of room.
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Re: Jacking points

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Just carry a small trolley jack - can't beat it.
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bmcecosse wrote:Just carry a small trolley jack - can't beat it.
Another item in your trailer full of spares :)
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Re: Jacking points

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or a can of emergency tyre repair and inflator like just about every new car has,don't even get a spare wheel on some,just as long as you don't shred a trye,I never have in45 years of driving fits in the glove box so you dont even have to open the boot :D or worry about jacks :o
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Re: Jacking points

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Never had a problem with the scissor, to be fair they're no worse than the OEM jacks you get with a lot of modern cars.
Takes minutes to change a wheel so its not under load for long.
I have to admit, a bottle jack would be nice, if only for pushing panels out.

My trolley jack is lovely but too big to heft around, though I did rescue someone once with it - by chance it was in the boot when I drove past some poor chap struggling with a one-legged death jack. :lol:
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Re: Jacking points

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Scissor jacks vary a LOT in quality!
Some are built down to a price, or for lightness, being charitable.

I looked at plenty in my local car boot fair, there are loads to chose from as people often grab things like scissor jacks when they sell or scrap cars.
In the end I went for a Honda one, no idea what year or model car it's from but it's well made, the scissor bits are thick steel channels that have had swages stamped into them for extra stiffness.
An extra bonus is that the Minor starting handle fits well enough to wind it up!

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Re: Jacking points

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Will this fail an MOT without jacking points. Sorry if daft question, as my car is on its side and they are in a very poor state.
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Re: Jacking points

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Not if they are removed - but if they are present and rusty, the MOT man may interpret them as being 'chassis' - so DO remove them completely.
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Re: Jacking points

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My car has passed an MOT for the last 6 years without jacking points.. Personally I don't like them. If they're not there you cannot be tempted to use them :wink: Bottle jack and a lump of wood :wink:

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Re: Jacking points

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Thank you, grind them off at the weekend. One less job :P :D
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ASL642 wrote:My car has passed an MOT for the last 6 years without jacking points.. Personally I don't like them. If they're not there you cannot be tempted to use them :wink: Bottle jack and a lump of wood :wink:
I agree, I dont like the look of them, but they were already removed from my car, presumably when new cross-member ends were fitted.
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Re: Jacking points

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I am actually going to vote in favor of jacking points, My car us currently undergoing a resto and I put a piece of chain through them ( then secured into a loop ) and use a hoist of that, my brothers car doesn't have them and its much harder to do.

But for jacking there useless
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Re: Jacking points

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Well, I've used them in anger on a saloon I used to have and they worked fine. I was pretty confident on the strength of that car though, and the standard jack does take very little space up in the boot....
Having said that, on all the rebuilds I've doen I normally ask the customer if they want them or not and replies are about 50/50 yes/no.
However if I was doing one for myself, I wouldn't bother and stick with the ex Mercedes scissor jacks i got from a boot sale years ago.
I did ground out on a jacking point once on another car i was runnign at the time, obviously on very uneven ground and bent it back partially breaking it off the crossmember end - soon cured (removed) with a grinder and some chassis black!

With the van and Series 2 in service now, obviously its not an issue, though the Series 2 jack is scarier still as pictured earlier in this thread. A true test of sill and rear chassis leg strength :o
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