glovebox liners

Post by **digger64** » Thu May 20, 2010 9:59 pm

hi, i'm sure this has probably been asked before (i have searched but found nowt!) - so i apologise now!

how on earth do the blinking glovebox liners go back in???

i took the old ones out as the seal had gone under the wipers and created a paddling pool on my parcel shelf! needless to say the old ones were mouldy etc. so now i have new ones.... but i'm sure that the holes are all in the wrong place!

any advice greatly received!

Post by **mikeysmorris** » Thu May 20, 2010 10:29 pm

Hi sorry i cant help with your refitting problem but could you please tell me where you found new ones,
i have been looking for these for my car for much the same reason you did water damage

i Evan took mine apart and had a go at making some from stiff card but not with very good results,

best regards Mikey

Post by **mickm** » Fri May 21, 2010 7:28 am

http://www.tomroy.co.uk/
Hi I got mine from Tom Roy. Try the link. Mick

Post by **mikeysmorris** » Fri May 21, 2010 11:40 am

digger64 wrote:hi, i'm sure this has probably been asked before (i have searched but found nowt!) - so i apologise now!

how on earth do the blinking glovebox liners go back in???

i took the old ones out as the seal had gone under the wipers and created a paddling pool on my parcel shelf! needless to say the old ones were mouldy etc. so now i have new ones.... but i'm sure that the holes are all in the wrong place!

any advice greatly received!

Hi, thanks for the pm i found the site

, with reference to your fitting problem are you sure you got the right ones?? i noticed on the site they do ones for different years, just a thought, best regards Mikey.

Post by **ASL642** » Fri May 21, 2010 11:42 am

They are v. difficult to fit without removing the steering wheel.

Post by **mikeysmorris** » Fri May 21, 2010 1:57 pm

mickm wrote:http://www.tomroy.co.uk/
Hi I got mine from Tom Roy. Try the link. Mick

Hi Mick found the site from your link thanks for the help,
best regards Mikey.

Post by **PAULJ** » Sun May 23, 2010 12:05 am

I got mine from Birmingham MM and yes they were a pig to fit to. I had to re drill holes. Very expensive as well for a bit of card

Post by **silloyd** » Mon May 24, 2010 5:04 pm

It can't be rocket science to make new liners...if you can find the right materials to make it from. I've worked out how the inside can be 'flocked' to get the slightly furry texture but I'm struggling with card.

I've used the old liners to cut shapes from new cardboard but the new card isnt' thick enough/the right texture and if I try to bend it around the right radii to get the shape then it just creases (tried wetting it, bending around a former, etc.).

I've head of millboard (for book binding?) but have no idea whether that is correct. The original glovebox has a slightly waxy texture to my mind (but that could just be because mine have got some dross on them due to previous leaks). The card also appears to be very similiar material to the parcel shelf.

Otherwise the card is quite stiff (~2mm thick), dark grey and dispite its stiffness can be straightened/bent without creasing (as proved when I cut the tempate.

Does anyone know what kind of card was used originally?

Post by **MarkyB** » Mon May 24, 2010 5:34 pm

Some kind of plastic has to be the way forward.
How about fibreglass?
Wouldn't need to be as thick and could be one piece which would do away with the thick seam at the back that makes them hard to fit.
Another bonus is they would be waterproof.
Where's the chap making videos about creating fibreglass panels? He could do it in his sleep.

Post by **silloyd** » Mon May 24, 2010 5:57 pm

Plastic could be a good solution if someone can suggest a suitable type (I know very little about plastics) that could be bought as a sheet and formed with heat to get the curves (thermoplastic?).

Not so sure about fibreglass. In my experiences of canoe repairs as a student (many moons ago) fibreglass is fairly inflexible and would be likely to crack when inserting back into the dash, particularly the smooth gel coat. I also think that it could be hard to make a former of the right shape to lay up the glass against. Which is a shame really, as Would produce a really rigid, light and waterproof solution, and fibreglass is fairly easy to source and use.

Post by **MarkyB** » Mon May 24, 2010 6:39 pm

I'm sure it's the thick seam on the widest part of the glove box that catches in the gap.
The front lip needs expand by the thickness of the dash metal, a few MM, a small slit or two should sort that out.
Getting them out again might be an issue.

Post by **LouiseM** » Mon May 24, 2010 8:17 pm

MarkyB wrote:Some kind of plastic has to be the way forward.

Can't remember who made them but you used to be able to get plastic glove box liners. A pair came up on ebay a few months ago.

Post by **mike.perry** » Mon May 24, 2010 11:43 pm

I'm after some plastic liners if they are available.
The cardboard liners go in with a struggle after removing the steering wheel, the 1098 driver's side liner is bigger than the earlier liners and has to be pushed straight in when the surround is removed, the passenger side can be pushed in sideways then turned around

Post by **MarkyB** » Tue May 25, 2010 8:47 am

The plastic they use for blister packs is very strong and flexible.
Might be tricky to get flock to stick though.

Post by **mike.perry** » Tue May 25, 2010 12:03 pm

Who needs flock? It's a glove box not a Chinese restaurant wallpaper.

Post by **MarkyB** » Tue May 25, 2010 5:51 pm

Nobody needs flock but some people like to keep the car looking standard.
I rather like the idea of using clear plastic and mounting some gauges behind them.
I had a word with my mate in the engineering department and he say we have the gear to do vacuum plastic forming.
He even thought it would be ideal for this which was a surprise, he usually po poos my ideas.

I'll have a chat with the bloke who does this stuff when I get back from the MOT as I'm now on holiday

.

Post by **PAULJ** » Tue May 25, 2010 7:53 pm

Frost do or did do a spray on flock.

Post by **digger64** » Wed May 26, 2010 9:02 pm

just thought i'd reply to all ..... i have done it!!!!!!
only needed to make a new hole in the drivers side liner with a punch. i didn't even have to take the steering wheel off! hooray!
Turns out i had probably thrown out the old ones with the funny clips on that you screw the screws into..... no wonder they weren't staying put!

Post by **mikeysmorris** » Thu May 27, 2010 2:25 pm

Hi people, glove box came to day drivers side i only needed one, thanks to all who helped, Just to add i thought i would have problems fitting it from the comments from others but it went in and the holes lined up with no problems even with the steering wheel fitted, so i am more than happy with the supplier esm morris minors ltd, so happy days, molly and i will be going on our first run with the local club I've joined caithness and sutherland vintage vehicle club on the 13 of june cant wait

best regards Mikey.

Post by dp » Fri May 28, 2010 3:02 pm

Why not glue in an offcut of some velvet material or vinylcloth or even leather (old sofa cushions) and sportsbags in charity shops are a good source) . The flock isn't very hard-wearing. The material will still move to allow fitting. Might also be worth gluing some waterproof plastic over the top half on the outside to stop any leaks from window or screenwash turning the cardboard to mush

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