Is the timing chain endless?
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Is the timing chain endless?
As the title suggests! I have a 5 metre box of the ubiquitous timing chain, and links. Is this OK to use, or does the high power application of the moggy engine dictate an endless chain?
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Linearaudio, I apologise on behalf of the post by StaffsMoggie. This forum is friendly and tries to answer all questions without stooping to insults. Hopefully a Mod will remove the ignorant and offensive comment quickly.
Yours is a perfectly reasonable question. A conventional bicycle chain has a joining link that is held together by a spring clip. Other chains are "endless" in that they have only fully riveted links with no joining link.
In theory, a joined timing chain should work, but I've only ever seen endless timing chains, and would be reluctant to "take a chance", bearing in mind the damage that a broken timing chain could cause. Perhaps an engine builder could comment further...
Yours is a perfectly reasonable question. A conventional bicycle chain has a joining link that is held together by a spring clip. Other chains are "endless" in that they have only fully riveted links with no joining link.
In theory, a joined timing chain should work, but I've only ever seen endless timing chains, and would be reluctant to "take a chance", bearing in mind the damage that a broken timing chain could cause. Perhaps an engine builder could comment further...
There already is a 'profanity' filter which works well. The posting did not contain a swear word but could have been considered offensive by those reading it. It was removed as soon as it was seen by a moderator. Just a reminder to everyone that this is a friendly site and we would like it to stay that way. Please adhere to the T&C's.
Now let's get back to the original topic.....
Now let's get back to the original topic.....
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I have had a 'joined' timing duplex chain - and it worked perfectly well. Make sure however that the slightly raised ends of the joint link are positioned facing outwards - so there is no chance of them catching on anything! In industrial use - joined chains are perfectly acceptable - and no more prone to failure at the join than anywhere else. Use it!!
Thanks BMC (and most others ). Didn't see the controversial comment, but I suppose I didn't perhaps phrase the question in a completely idiot-proof manner which may have caused confusion to some! It was my concern about the general rubbish quality of modern chain, amongst most other modern goods, which led to the query! I was considering using chain which I knew to be of reasonable standard. Think I'll go with it, the joiners being the more all-encompassing type rather than traditional bicycle type.
As for all chains having ends, I would challenge anyone to find the end of a factory assembled "endless" chain!
As for all chains having ends, I would challenge anyone to find the end of a factory assembled "endless" chain!
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It may be that you could use the correct length of chain off your roll and rivet the join. This is the proceedure on racing cycle chains for which there is a special tool. Admitted the failure consequences are not so severe.
I have a 5mtr box of fan belt which I use on my Series MM. I select the length I require, undo the joining link and link the two ends.
I have a 5mtr box of fan belt which I use on my Series MM. I select the length I require, undo the joining link and link the two ends.
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Is it the same pitch as the timing chain then?? (oh the joy of taking statements out of context )mike.perry wrote:...I have a 5mtr box of fan belt which I use on my Series MM. I select the length I require, undo the joining link and link the two ends.
And Dan- how can you say you miss all the fun and games? You've been the perpetrator of a couple of major ones in the "off topic" section
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On the morning of Sunday 22/8 a post was made on this thread on my computer. Apparrently the post was offensive. One of the mods quite rightly removed it and contacted me. This took me by surprise as I had no idea what it was about. The post was made at 0412 while I was at work.
It turns out that the post was made by shall we say, a rather drunk person in the house while I was out working nights!! To say they have been spoken to is an understatement. It also proves that it is worth changing your password regularly.
Having finally got to the bottom of this I apologise for any offence caused.