Do you think this is possibe?!?

Post by **Sidney'61** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:42 pm

bpr81a wrote:The was a traveller at Chatswaorth a few years ago that sat like that when parked.....Citroen BX19 running gear.....Editted..I've found the picture:
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If you want to know more on this car there's a feature on it in Minor Monthly November 2003, very useful if you're sad like me and happen to have 5 years worth of the magazines sitting next to your computer!

Post by **stag36587** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 1:53 am

Looks to me like a Traveller trying to be a Citroen BX!

Post by **leyther8008** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 8:34 am

Whats a Glasgow lad doing at Astley Green colliery?
Seriously I,ve seen a dumped traveller somewhere but it had a full space frame chassis and re engineered suspension, a lot of work but its your car if you want it go for it.

Post by **Bigal_85** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 9:01 am

leyther8008 wrote:Whats a Glasgow lad doing at Astley Green colliery?
Seriously I,ve seen a dumped traveller somewhere but it had a full space frame chassis and re engineered suspension, a lot of work but its your car if you want it go for it.

Ah this beautiful traveller is one I found on google and then either modified it or butchered it in photoshop depending on your preferences. I am planning on getting my traveller in the next couple of weeks when work is finished on the one I'm after.

Unfortunately I don't have the skills or funds to make this happen yet.....but one day.....maybe!!!!

Post by **COMMERCIALMAN** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:00 am

LINEARAUDIO wrote:Each to their own, I say Grandad. Personally I think its awful, but then I'm no longer a hip young thing, and there are still plenty enough minors out there to allow for the (hypothetical, note) interpretation given. The same can't be said for all the 105E Anglias that we religiously put huge fibreglass arches on in the 70's, usually running out of cash before we got to banding the wheels!! When did you last see one?

I have two and their both original. This is my rare Blue Mink colour car only 3 left in this colour out of 250.<br>

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linearaudio · Post by **linearaudio** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 5:54 pm

Lovely looker (for a Ford!). Can't remember them ever looking that good from new

You must be proud!

Post by **COMMERCIALMAN** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:41 pm

Took me 8 years to find one like this in this colour. Its a peach. Completly different than driver a Minor. They both have their quirks but thats part of the fun isnt it.
Jason

Post by **GAS** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 9:11 pm

I think it looks the mutts knuts

Post by **rayofleamington** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:25 pm

To do it properly would be a real challenge - A spaceframe or chassis base would require less ingenuity than doing it on the original floorpan - but nothing is impossible.

A common way to slam is called channelling - where you lower the entire body relative to the floor pan, (however getting the front wheels to steer in the arches will be an issue).
On a Minor channelling is not really needed, as by reworking the rear chassis extensions to a higher location and fabricating higher mounts for the front of rear spring, less work is required - you may need to raise the prop tunnel and modify the centre of the centre crossmember (making the hole higher).

The front is a different kettle of kippers.
To get the low look at the front of the Minor requires a bit of bodywork modification (e.g. front skirt) - the bumper sits much higher than the sills making it look high even when lowered.

For the slammed look at front you could have the arch profile raised in the wings to clear the wheels when steered , but I'm not sure if it would look great. The bump stop area can be raised if it is braced well (raising woulld remove most of the region above it so you need to react the bump load carefully. You could get modified steering arms to avoid bump steer.
You also need to be careful of the lever dampers - Some don't heve enough travel for lowering and if they bottom out you could shear the bolts off!

The sump becomes very prone - so will need protection!

Otherwise oif you keep the wings standard you'd need to narrow the front track width and that's a different league!

As for wheels - if you go for Ford stud spacing, then so much more choice becomes instantly available. I find big alloys to be very Chavvy unless they are in keeping with the car - subtle options like chrome smoothies (steels) look more classy.

Post by **motherofgod** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 11:22 pm

I love threads like this................. all these different thoughts.

IMO I like low, but as it's been said you won't get that low without some engineering. Mine is low, front number plate(a standard one) is curb height off the ground, and my front arches have been trimmed for steering..................I would still try it thou

james

Post by **Pyoor_Kate** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:20 am

You and me both wibble - I love the fact that while modern cars are carefully picking their way over tracks in the lake district, Rebecca can hurtle up them with almost reckless abandon....

But I've always been a terribly *practical* girl, and having worked at [a large recovery company company] directing recovery trucks, I know that a broken down lowered car is a stuffed lowered car, 'cos they're going to have to wait for a specialist recovery vehicle.

's not to say someone shouldn't do the whole lowered thing to a minor. 's just to say, be aware of the issues if you do

Post by **polo2k** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:10 pm

could the back axle be put ontop of the springs rather than below?

Post by **alex_holden** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:28 pm

polo2k wrote:could the back axle be put ontop of the springs rather than below?

That's the standard arrangement.

Post by **callyspoy** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 2:32 pm

ray thinks my wheels are chavvy...damn!

Post by **jonathon** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 3:05 pm

I think they look great !

Post by **callyspoy** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 3:11 pm

oh you! always come along to make me feel good again!!

Post by **aussiemike** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 7:07 pm

take a look at the vw scene and you will notice that airbags are alomst a common accourance!!! but read a little bit between the lines and you will find that ride quality is a wee bit comprimised to say the least.
I love lowered cars to bits!!!! but it has to be done rigt and safe!
I would really like to see a detailed photo build up of te citroen/traveller too! Modified is great!!!

cheer,s michael.

Post by **rayofleamington** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 10:26 pm

ray thinks my wheels are chavvy...

sorry - everyone's different - even more so when it comes to mods! It's whether you like them or not that's more important.
motherofgod's would be my preference.

Post by **callyspoy** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 11:29 pm

ray, i was only joking, it's fine! that's what makes mods nice, some people will love it, others will hate it. a bit of diversity never does any harm...does it??!!

and back to the thread, i love lowered cars, but agree, ride always seems to be compromised, which as a daily driver, just isn't worth it for me!!

Post by **rupert** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 11:10 am

get it slammed. Ignore the grumpy old people

If you really want it that low you'll need some LJH engineering front suspension (or more extreme stuff), but you can get good results with marina van torsion bars up front and just turn down them splines. Take it easy or you'll be rebuilding bumpstops (been there!)

At the back whack some lowering blocks on and be done. Again you'll have clearance issues and a really weird effect from the lever formed between the axel and the spring, but again take it easy and have fun.

Lowered cars look good. It you want it practical, don't lower it, enjoy your car and do your own thing! You can spend bug £££ on doing it properly (Messers Beardmore know), but if your aim is cheap fun, just get it done.

Rupert