North sea oil.

Post by **StaffsMoggie** » Sun Jul 20, 2008 3:58 am

A simple question but one that needs answering. What happened to North sea oil? Why are we still at the mercy of the arabs for our fuel supplies?

Post by **polo2k** » Sun Jul 20, 2008 12:16 pm

iirc we sold all the rights to it all *sigh*
I know that when there were the refinery stikes a few weeks ago, there was a 4 week delay between the end of the strike and getting production back "on line" all this was due to getting chain reactions started

Post by **ndevans** » Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:33 pm

We are becoming more dependant on imports for oil, and are rapidly becoming dependant on Russia for Gas.

We have ~ 300 years coal under our feet.

We are going to bitterly regret shutting the pits.

Don't get me started..........

Post by **StaffsMoggie** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:50 am

The coal will still be there when other countries put their prices up.

Thatcher may have closed the pits that were operating in the 80s but there is a new generation of collieries about to be opened.

Post by **bmcecosse** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:36 am

It's Scotland's Oil - as we keep telling Gordon Clown !
So far - we are about half way through the known oil deposits, although this second half will be harder to pump out. However new stocks are still being discovered, although deeper and under some v hard rock! I remember well being told some 30 years ago that there was 20 years supply of North Sea oil available.
The absolute scandal of burning methane gas to make electricity must be halted - especially (as mentioned above) - the supply is now in Russian hands and they will just keep cranking up the cost.
This country had a lead on Nuclear Power - where is it now we NEED it!!

Post by **8009STEVE** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:50 am

Nuclear Power

All we do with this is to boil a large kettle

Post by **MoggyTech** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:06 am

Several of the large North Sea oil fields were sold to American Oil Companies, at the time it was thought it would not be cost effictive to get the oil out of the ground. Now that prices are sky high, those US companies are laughing all the way to the back. In other words, typical mis management of the current government, something at which they excel.

Maybe not too late for Scotland to realise that the SNP is the best way forward for this Country.

Post by dp » Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:29 am

It's a trust of lack. When we had our own booming oil supply was the country any better? No it was said to be 'not quite the right type of oil'.

Governments like to keep populations feeling a bit helpless and feeling a lack of certainty in their lives so that they are motivated to work harder and not question too much. So prices of things if naturally cheap are kept artifically high. If free energy was discovered it would be taxed or deemed inappropriate for the masses.

We still have plenty of gas but nowhere to store it in summer for the coming winter so we send it abroad cheap and buy it back at stupid cost in winter...

Keeping a mentality of 'lack' in food and fuel keeps us off balance.

Post by **ndevans** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:21 pm

dp wrote:It's a trust of lack. When we had our own booming oil supply was the country any better? No it was said to be 'not quite the right type of oil'.

Governments like to keep populations feeling a bit helpless and feeling a lack of certainty in their lives so that they are motivated to work harder and not question too much. So prices of things if naturally cheap are kept artifically high. If free energy was discovered it would be taxed or deemed inappropriate for the masses.

We still have plenty of gas but nowhere to store it in summer for the coming winter so we send it abroad cheap and buy it back at stupid cost in winter...

Keeping a mentality of 'lack' in food and fuel keeps us off balance.

And I thought I was a cynic.....

Post by **plastic_orange** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:52 pm

I've got to agree with Moggy Tech and bmcecosse
We've allowed it to be frittered away by incompetents.

Pete

Post by **rayofleamington** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:57 pm

What makes me laff(nervously) is that the current OIL CRISIS that has driven up the cost of transport and the cost of food production has been 're-branded' - truth is stranger than fiction. I'm sure the government is very happy that they whipped the BBC for telling something far too close to the real truth a few years ago.

According to the radio, TV and newspapers, all this extra cost is due to the 'credit crunch'. Never a day goes by without some mention of a credit crunch - presumably a side effect of credit limitations following America's financial mishaps.
Personally as I don't use any credit I am tempted to phone up the radio and ask them if they are sure it's a credit crunch and not an "OIL (price) CRISIS"

Post by dp » Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:46 pm

Just read in the paper today: some sneaky oil company had been undermining oil from Al-Fayad's Surrey estate.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/ ... article.do

So have a look around and if you see anything looking like an oil derrick out of your window, have some time to spare and the resources of Mr Al-Fayad, you could be in luck