nuts and bolts

Post by **andrewwita** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:29 pm

does any one know if any one has made a list of nut and bolt ( spanner sizes) for referance - and save time trying to fit wrong spanners on to my minor traveller -

i.e 1/4w for most of the wing bolts

Post by **bigginger** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:39 pm

Not as far as I know, but it would be a great thing to have. If people want to PM me any, I'll put together a locked (to stop it turning into the usual free for all affair) 'sticky' thread on it. It'll give Harry Mango a chance to shine too

Post by **DaveC** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:44 pm

I seem to remember a list on here somewhere, but I can't find it. Rog will no doubt have a list....

Post by **aupickup** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:52 pm

good idea i will throw some in later

Post by **bmcecosse** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:33 pm

Basically it's mostly Whitworth sizes on the body and Across Flats on the engine and gearbox. Some new replacement parts come with metric nuts just to add to the confusion.

Post by **aupickup** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:50 pm

yes we know, but i think the general idea is to give the correct sizes

Post by **bigginger** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:52 pm

Quite, hence the offer to do a list. Seems to be an awful lot of answering things that haven't been asked tonight.

Post by **andrewwita** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:00 pm

cool look forward to it

if any one knows - the two i need next - the front wint bolt above hockey stick - that goes into ingine compartment

and the sills - kick plates have bolts on them

Post by **bigginger** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:03 pm

From memory, the kick plates are 1/4 W as well

Post by **alex_holden** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:14 pm

andrewwita wrote:if any one knows - the two i need next - the front wint bolt above hockey stick - that goes into ingine compartment

I've a feeling they're 3/16" W (assuming they haven't been replaced over the years with whatever non-standard bolt came to hand).

Post by **Orkney** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 6:23 am

Would be a handy resouce indeed - never ceases to amaze me the amount of spanners you end up with out when doing even a relatively small job !

Post by **Peetee** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:14 am

Will this do:

MORRIS MINOR SPANNER SIZES

ENGINE

ROCKER COVER 5/8 AF
FAN BOLTS 7/16 AF
WATER PUMP NUTS ½ AF
THERMOSTAT HOUSING NUTS ½ AF
ROCKER PEDASTAL NUTS ½ AF
CYLINDER HEAD NUTS 9/16 AF
MANIFOLD TO HEAD NUTS ½ AF
SUMP PLUG ¾ AF
DISTRIBUTOR CLAMP BOLTS 7/16
OIL FILTER STUD NUTS 9/16AF
OIL FILTER PIPE ¾ AF
DYNAMO /FANBELT ADJUST TOP ½ AF
DITTO BOTTOM 9/16AF
STARTER MOTOR MOUNTS 9/16 AF
TIMING CHAIN COVER 716 AF AND ½ AF
SIDE COVER BOLTS ½ AF
SUMP BOLTS 7/16 AF
STARTER DOG ¾ WHIT LONG SOCKET
CLUTCH COVER BOLTS ½ AF
FLYWHEEL BOLTS 9/16 AF
ENGINE PLATE BOLTS ½ AF
ENGINE MOUNTING TO ENGINE BOLTS ½ AF
GEARBOX TO ENGINE BOLTS ½ AF
BIG ENDS 9/16 AF
MAIN BEARINGS 5/8 AF
CLUTCH
CLUTCH ADJUSTMENT ½ AF AND 5/8 AF
GEARBOX AND REAR AXLE
FILLER AND DRAIN PLUGS 3/8 WHITWORTH
GEARBOX COVER PLATE NO 3 PHILLIPS
UJ BOLTS AND NUTS ¼ WHITWORTH
DIFFERENTIAL TO BANJO CASING ½ AF
GEARBOX SIDE COVER NUTS 7/16 AF
EXTENSION BOLTS 7/16 AF
REMOTE CONTROL TO GEARBOX ½ AF
REMOTE HOUSING TO BOTTOM PLATE 7/16 AF
REVERSE PLUNGER PLUG 11/16 AF
GEARSTICK DAMPER PLUG 4/4 AF
BRAKES
HANDBRAKE ADJUSTMENT NUTS 5/16 WHITWORTH
MASTER CYLINDER FILLER 7/16 WHIT OR PLUG SPANNER
BLEED NIPPLES 7/16 AF FRONT 11 MM REAR ?
BRAKE PIPE UNION 3/16 WHIT
FLEXIBLE HOSE NUT 3/8 WHIT
BRAKE BACK PLATES ½ AF
REAR BANJO BOLTS 5/16 WHIT
CHASSIS
WHEEL NUTS 3/8 WHIT
RADIATOR BOLTS ¼ WHIT
HOSE CLIPS 9/32 AF
BUMPER NUTS 7/16 WHIT
FRONT HUB NUT 15/16 AF
STEERING ARM TO TRACK ROD END 3/8 WHIT
EYEBOLT PIVOT 9/16 AF
LOWER ARM BOLT 5/16 WHIT
FORK NUT 3/8 WHIT
TIE ROD TO FORK FORK NUT AND BOLT ¼ WHIT
TIE ROD TO CHASSIS 5/16 WHIT
LOWER TRUNNION NUTS 9/ 16 OR ½ AF
UPPER TRUNNION FULCRUM PIN NUTS 7/16 OR ¾ AF
WINDOW ASSEMBLY 3/16 WHIT
DOOR TO A POST ¼ WHIT 13 MM IS A TIGHT FIT
FRONT WINGS ¼ WHIT
HOCKEY STICK NUTS 3/16 WHIT OR 4 BA
STEERING WHEEL NUT ¾ WHIT

Post by **MoggyTech** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:29 am

Will this do:

Not half, Excellent, you win the Xmas Turkey

Post by **andrewwita** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:27 am

wow thanks

Post by **HarryMango** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:42 am

Well done Peetee - Several people have asked me to do this on many occasions but lack of time blah blah....

1 slight correction Hockey stick nuts are 2ba as are Top chrome, Bonnet Flash, Bull Badge & MM/S11 Boot Badge

Alex is correct - kick plates should be 3/16W

A few more from memory :-

Eye Bolt 1/2W
Rear Hub Nut 1,1/8W (although 1,7.8 AF is a very good fit & works)
Diff Pinion Nut 1,1/8AF
Tappet adj nut 7/16AF
Front Panel lower 3/16W
Front Panel top 1/4W
Bonnet & Boot Hinges 3/16W
Bumper Blade to Valance 1/4W

Everyone should remember though where Whitworth is mentioned this is only the Spanner size - if you are replacing the fixings these threads are BSF (British Standard Fine) which is 1 size larger than Whit. i.e. 5/16BSF thread uses a 1/4W spanner size.

Rog

Post by **bigginger** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:22 pm

I'll get a sticky up this afternoon, then

Yes, I'm well aware of the potential for 'jokes' there - I shouldn't bother

Post by **Bluesman** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:43 am

I have a hard time understanding these different spanner sizes and "standards".

Looks like the AF spanners are marked according to the bolt head diameter, and the Whitworth spanners are listed under something else - thread diameter? Totally confusing.

I have a set with 7/16, 5/8, 9/16, 1/2, 3/4"" etc and they fit a lot of places on the Morris. These spanners are obviously not Whitworth, since they fit the nuts/bolts listed under AF.

But for all those critical bolts/nuts...the ones that need a bit of persuasion (force) and need to fit 100%, like the wing bolts, my set won´t work.

Occasionally, my metric set will do the job (like on the front suspension which wasn´t very rusty/tightened), but I refuse to attack a wing bolt with something that isn´t a dead fit.

So it seems I need a set of Whitworth spanners, too?

Since I am in Sweden, I have a hard time finding anything non-metric - nuts and bolts are hard, but finding tools is a real pig.

Any UK sources available, preferably with good prices and reasonable shipping? Anyone here who could sell me a used set in good shape?

Tnx for your time & any advice/pointers, as usual.

Cheers /Richard

Post by **alex_holden** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:35 pm

Try sending HarryMango a PM, or search eBay.co.uk for "whitworth spanners". I find it useful to have both a combination spanner set and a socket set.

Post by **chickenjohn** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:57 pm

Bluesman wrote:-snip-ISo it seems I need a set of Whitworth spanners, too?
-snip
Any UK sources available, preferably with good prices and reasonable shipping? Anyone here who could sell me a used set in good shape?

Tnx for your time & any advice/pointers, as usual.

Cheers /Richard

ESM or BM (and other suppliers no doubt) can send you the correct size nuts and bolts for all parts of the car, and ESM sell a set of Whitworth sockets on a rail.

or try here for a full high quality Whitworth tool kit http://www.whitworthspanners.com/produc ... cdc66ee183

The cheapest way to buy these tools is a boot fairs or autojumbles if you visit the UK and can get to one!

Post by **dalebrignall** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 4:33 pm

dont forget the metric and imperial adjustable