hydraulic clutch

Post by **aupickup** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 2:49 pm

are there any advantages to the hydraulic clutch kit?

Post by **bmcecosse** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 5:02 pm

Mechanical clutch seems fine to me.

Post by **Onne** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 6:05 pm

That's not the question, is it. Maybe smoother operation? I find the standard clutch to be a bit of an on-off switch

Post by **aupickup** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 6:12 pm

yes i agree ther onne.

has any one on here fitted one

Post by **Onne** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 6:24 pm

One other advantage, they use a different bearing, not the carbon one. Whoich again is smoother, and lasts longer

Post by **M25VAN** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 9:57 pm

Yes, I had one fitted and it was nice and smooth. Changed the gearbox though and in the process the hydraulic bits never got put back. I think I was in one of my 'remove the bits that might cause trouble out on the road' moments. The ball race release did get left in though.
If you fit one you may have to fiddle getting the master cylinder to fit in the gearbox crossmember and there will be a reservoir that needs fitting on the bulkhead.
I might have the install instructions hiding somewhere if you want a copy but I agree with bmcecosse and I would stick with the original bits.....

Post by **Onne** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 9:59 pm

So would I, there are enough puddles of oil under the car already!

Post by **aupickup** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 10:00 pm

would be a help for the instructions.
do you use the same clutch fork , i mean the original type fork with the hole for the clutch spring and the hole for the clutch adjustment, or do i need a diferent clutch fork

Post by **bigginger** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 10:20 pm

Same one in my kit (not yet fitted)

Post by **M25VAN** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:06 pm

Sorry aupickup but I can't find my original instructions.

Maybe someone else can help.

But from memory here are the main points.....
1. Master cylinder bolts onto back of gearbox crossmember which had to be cut slightly to allow fitting.
2. I had to brace the top of my crossmember as it didn't fix to the floor so would move back under clutch operation.
3. Slave cylinder bolted onto existing holes on gearbox and actuated clutch via a shortened original release rod.
4. Same release fork used but ball race release bearing was an extra.
5. Remote resevoir fixed onto bulkhead.
6 All the above gave a nice light smooth clutch that needed no adjustement.
I would still be using it today if I wasn't so paranoid about extra bits going wrong.

Ball race is still fitted though and seems to go on forever (10+years) if a bit noisy.

Parts were all the same as on ESM website
http://morrisminorspares.co.uk/shop/adv ... ef&x=4&y=0
Ball race release
http://morrisminorspares.co.uk/shop/pop ... p?pID=1180

Post by **aupickup** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:11 pm

THANKS
is the ball race release bearing necessary

Post by **M25VAN** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:55 am

Your welcome.

I don't think the ball race is necessary but as I was told at the time it doesn't wear down and makes for a fully self adjusting setup.

Post by **bmcecosse** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:14 am

The ball release bearing IS the advantage - who supplies this ? Will fit one when engine is next out.

Post by **Onne** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:04 pm

All the normal suppliers. ESM etc

Post by **bmcecosse** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:48 pm

Ball release is of course not necessary - provided you don't ride the clutch. Always pop it in neutral when stopped - and foot off clutch immediately. But even so - they do wear down, usually before the plate itself wears out, and so ball release will extend overall service life.