Cowl repair

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Cowl repair

Post by wimor »

Hello,

On my last trip to the UK I have bought a cowl repair panel for my MM. At home I saw that the delivered cowl is in reverse with the cowl mounted on my car. On the photo you can see the difference. I had a discussion about this with the supplier and on the end he say that these panels have to be cut to fit the MM models. A pity, I fought I bought a correct cowl repair panel. Does somebody know where I can buy a cowl repair panel that has the original form? or repair tips? Many thanks.

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Post by Cam »

Unfortunately not. :( I am faced with the same problem and got told the same as you.

From the look of your panel the upper section seems OK, could you not make a jig for alignment and cut the bottom section off BELOW the differently shaped radiator 'space'? This would require a bit more welding and finishing but it's certainly an option.
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Post by Onne »

So this supplier has just messed things up, and won't admit it? I need this panel as well.

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Post by Cam »

NO. They don't supply the MM panels. They tell you to buy the standard (late) one and modify it to fit the MM radiator.
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Post by wimor »

Cam has right. The supplier tells me that this panel have to be cut to fit the MM models and he will take the panel back for a refund. At first he thought that the panel of my car has been reversed.
Rather do I hope that a manufacturer makes the panels in reversed.

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Post by Onne »

valid point. I now remeber the later cars have the radiator the wrong way round. Of all people I should know. I have replaced my radiator a dozen times now.

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Post by Cam »

Onne wrote:I have replaced my radiator a dozen times now.
:o :o I'd get your radiators from a different place! :wink: :lol:
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Post by chickenjohn »

From the look of the photo's, it looks like your cowl panel is sound on the shaped sections, the rust is on the flat sections, so I would just get some sheet steel (~1mm) make templates, cut the rust out of the old cowl and weld in your own repair section (carefully 1cm at a time! to avoid distortion to the flat sections).

You could make a cardboard template for the sheet steel up from the flat bits of the "repair" section, then send back the later panel for a refund and fabricate your own repair section!
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Post by Onne »

Well, first of all, I shouldn't be so utterly clumsy.
first time I replaced my old one, had it recored.
Then I took it out to replace the waterpump
Then I had a wee accident, damaging the rad
Then I had my 1098 recored again.
which I then replaced with a series II radiator
And I made rather a large hole in it when staring the car with the handle
So had that repaired.
Thats'it really.
But it is now my profession!
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Post by bigginger »

I thought that you were repairing them, not damaging them?
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Post by Onne »

Well, I have to keep the company running, don't I.

Still very good at damaging them though, so I did today.... :oops: :oops: 8)
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Post by wimor »

Thanks John. Your second idea is good. The condition of bottom including the “dip” is being worse than you can see on the photo. I must make a complete new part.
I have asked the supplier if he can organise that a manufacturer makes one-shot of reverse cowls. It’s only turns the mould

On behalf of the pride Morris Minor, with side valve engine, owners. :wink:

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Post by Onne »

I am sure there are more like us Willem! If you do proceed in doing so, please keep everyone updated, that may keep the cost a bit lower.

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Of course Onne. I shall inform you all


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Will you be going to the rally in the north next sunday?
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